Potions: When will they be useful?

you need str potion for ifrit extreme and potions help a shit ton at 13 nails lol.

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Originally Posted by Punainen

The only potion that is even halfway useful is Ironwill Ungeant, as it gives us the effect of Shell, which SE saw fit to deprive Conjurer of casting.

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Actually, conjurer has a trait that gives protect the effect of defense bonus AND magic defense bonus. So a conjurer / WHM at the appropriate level has both protect and shell rolled into one spell.

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Originally Posted by Punainen

600 MP is like 1 to 2 spells for a BLM, and is therefore ultimately useless, not worth buying/carrying.
And my point still stands, if it doesn't have 'mega' in the name, its garbage. So why are they in the game?

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MP potions should be reserved for WHM, use convert to get MP back on BLM. Again you are using the potion in a way that makes it a waste. Use mega-potions of INT or nerve drops on BLM.

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Originally Posted by Rokien

I don't want potions to be how I cure myself, I want to carry a few potions with me in a emergency situation.

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Where, might I ask, did I request they become the main way to cure yourself? Is there nothing in between garbage and main-healing power? If they healed you 1000hp with the same 4:30 cooldown, they would both be useful, AND not good enough to be a main heal.

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Originally Posted by Molly_Millions

MP potions should be reserved for WHM, use convert to get MP back on BLM. Again you are using the potion in a way that makes it a waste. Use mega-potions of INT or nerve drops on BLM.

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Pretty much this.

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Originally Posted by Punainen

600 MP is like 1 to 2 spells for a BLM, and is therefore ultimately useless, not worth buying/carrying.
And my point still stands, if it doesn't have 'mega' in the name, its garbage. So why are they in the game?

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Potions are all about the situation. 600 MP is a decent amount for a whm or pld in any fight and pretty handy in a burn phase for a blm. If you are doing a blm burn and all ~5 of the blms pop a mega ether, that is 10 more spells which can easily be 5-8k.

As for the normal potions being garbage, they have to start some where. The first potion an alchemist makes can't heal for 500 hp, it would either create a balance issue with the higher quality of potions (force them to be even stronger so they aren't overlooked) or make little incentive to finish leveling alchemy (the higher level potions wouldn't be strong enough to warrant getting another 30+ levels in alchemy.) You don't complain about a lvl 10 sword being less beneficial then a lvl 50 sword, do you? Same idea.

I like Elixirs :3

If only they came in a grape flavor!

Potions are fine as it imho. Stat-enhancing ones most notably.

If they make them more potent or remove cooldowns, the game will have to completely be rebalanced and they will become a necessity, which creates another problem.

im guessing potions are getting reworked too...

hmm interesting... no one <3 blood drop?
That's where almost the only thing can help you right away if you accidentally stand inside Bad Breath.
Also, during Aleport Hamlet, it helps a lot for DoH so 50% chance you don't need bug WHMs "Esuna please"

20 bottles is only 10 GC seals...

and I use Kiss of the Morning Dew (Adder 50 seals)... for 1050mp... at emergency pld hamlet tanking or whm curing...