The fight design of AAC M3 Savage, (AKA. Tyrant Savage) fails to make fun.

So xenosys made a vid on this thread and showed why OP's having a hard time passing the dps check.

My hot take is that anyone who personally fails at weapons 15 times in a week should be locked out of Savage.

It's not even an Extreme Trial level of difficulty, they could very much put this in any dungeon. As for the rest, you basically have to remember the patterns for orbital (and admittedly, know how early the timing is), and manage your space in Arena Split, which obviously will cause people to lose DPS. Considering how easy the encounter is, the DPS loss is the only punishing part except for people who have a hard time checking their screen.

I genuinely consider M9S less easy.

I disagree.

This fight finally feels like a 3rd turn.



Xeno is right when he says "You shouldn't be able to play safe and still clear".

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Originally Posted by NightHour

I disagree.

This fight finally feels like a 3rd turn.



Xeno is right when he says "You shouldn't be able to play safe and still clear".

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You can play safe at times, cause that's always better than wiping your team due to bad greed, or drop dps to heal cause shit hit the fan, but this dude is not doing ANYTHING between 40 to 30% of the time. Not healing, nor dpsing.. literally AFK.

This fight does not need a nerf and after watching Xenosys Vex break down your over uptime, it's a not always casting issue. This fight was rough to clear in pf, but it's also fun and a great challenge. Practice your slide casting in all forms of content, roulettes, extremes, normal raids, pvp, ect. Put in the effort and you will clear.

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Originally Posted by Doomfist

So xenosys made a vid on this thread and showed why OP's having a hard time passing the dps check.

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all the info was already available just because he looked it up it doesn't really mean shit

I'm sorry but if there's anything to complain about here, it's about the game not forcing you to not drag the rest of your team down just because you don't want to improve yourself. I will not advocate using 3rd party tools to improve your performance, but instead look at resources people post and try to be the best version of yourself before you start advocating for content to be scaled down to fit your current level. Not all of content is meant for every player, if this is your limit then so be it.

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Originally Posted by BismarckBug

I'm sorry but if there's anything to complain about here, it's about the game not forcing you to not drag the rest of your team down just because you don't want to improve yourself. I will not advocate using 3rd party tools to improve your performance, but instead look at resources people post and try to be the best version of yourself before you start advocating for content to be scaled down to fit your current level. Not all of content is meant for every player, if this is your limit then so be it.

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too late, they're already actively griefing m12s parties with their 30-50% uptime.

cHeCk iS tOo TiGhT

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Originally Posted by Bryson

too late, they're already actively griefing m12s parties with their 30-50% uptime.

cHeCk iS tOo TiGhT

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thank god they're not on my data centre

Oh, it's you again.

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Originally Posted by xiaomingshi

dev repeatedly uses the random weapons mechanic which is quite boring

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Yeah, it must be really boring when you're not even trying to optimize your damage, and thus being the reason why your PFs are having difficulty making the DPS checks.

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Secondly "Omen", "Meteor Rain", "Arena Split", and even the "Stampede" mechanics are not designed overly complex to trick players

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Well, people can't even position right for arena split with tethers on two fixed positions. I agree the fight has nothing challenging in terms of brainpower required, unless you're trying to maximize your damage .. which you should be, but you aren't.

This fight is all about your job prowess, how well you cycle your cooldowns, how well you know what you NEED to heal. The mechanically difficult fight is going to be Lindwurm II. Omen is basically a test of your timing, it's one of the fastest mechanics in the game, and a bunch of people eat damage downs from it (remember, this is the damage optimization fight).

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Nevertheless, dev dramatically increases the DPS check of Tyrant savage preventing players from clearing the fight after successfully handling the above-mentioned mechanics

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You think you handled the mechanics, but you didn't. It's like doing UWU and being mad that you didn't get past the LB phase, because you didn't awaken any primals.

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but players should be able to clear such a complex savage fight with week 1 or 2 gears

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Why? If you can't do it, then wait till people have more gear if you're so frustrated. Why should everyone be able to clear this fight in 2 weeks??? They should just design savage so that everyone can clear in one day, so you can go back to AFKing in limsa with nothing to do for the rest of the 4 months.

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Dramatically increasing the DPC check without creating several complex and fun mechanics easily let players feel frustrated.

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If you think you're frustrated now because you can't do enough damage with the mechanics being easy ...