FFXIV totems need to change

They should've never made the mounts obtainable with totems, because all people do is complain about it.

Guys the game has to have grindy content for grind enjoyers. Not EVERYTHING in the game has to be spoon fed to you immediately. Get over yourselves.

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Originally Posted by Remarus

Oh my sweet summer child, you have clearly not spent time mount farming in other MMOs.

The totems are respectful of your time. I know people who are still grinding out Invincible in WoW from an expansion that came out in 2008. 99 totems may feel excessive but it's bad luck protection. If the mount has a 1% drop rate, it's ensuring you do the exact amount of clears needed to ensure you're not going over that 1% worth of effort.

That way, you don't have to replicate the experience of someone like me, where a 1% drop took me 1262 kills to get:

https://i.imgur.com/WQUF6oa.png

I want the wings as much as anyone, but asking you to do 99 kills isn't terrible in terms of a grind, especially considering you can keep doing it and don't have to wait for next week's reset like you do in most other MMOs.

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A criticism but I hope you don't take it badly... it's not right to romanticize and normalize that kind of farming, it's disgusting and that's why MMOs in general don't usually attract attention as they used to.

The post is a constructive criticism for the future of the game and be a little agile process, I'm not saying that the mount should appear for each clear is simply an idea to abandon that farmeo so much and old that year after year is becoming heavy.

99 totems at release and after 2-3 patches down to 50 thats how it should be. its ridiculous that you cant buy it right away

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Originally Posted by Sifpatata

A criticism but I hope you don't take it badly... it's not right to romanticize and normalize that kind of farming, it's disgusting and that's why MMOs in general don't usually attract attention as they used to.

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You do understand the concept of optional content don't you? Can you explain why everything in the game must be a joke to get? You're talking like these mounts are some core aspect of the game when in truth they are irrelevant as hell. Don't take this badly but don't you think its entitled to force the devs to cater only to your preferred version of looting?

I for one enjoy getting these EX mounts when I don't feel like starting another game and have done everything else I'm interested in the game. They're something mindless I can grind.

This game already gives out "relic" weapons like candy. If you can even call them that anymore.

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Originally Posted by Ath192

You do understand the concept of optional content don't you? Can you explain why everything in the game must be a joke to get? You're talking like these mounts are some core aspect of the game when in truth they are irrelevant as hell. Don't take this badly but don't you think its entitled to force the devs to cater only to your preferred version of looting?

I for one enjoy getting these EX mounts when I don't feel like starting another game and have done everything else I'm interested in the game. They're something mindless I can grind.

This game already gives out "relic" weapons like candy. If you can even call them that anymore.

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yeah, people should get over that "I have to get everything mentality" Its a theme park in the end. Not every attraction is made or supposed to appeal everyone.

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Originally Posted by Remarus

You're right, mounts should just be a 20% drop rate so they're DOA in Party Finder a week after patch. You should also get 12 totems per kill so you don't have to do more than 8 kills to get it.

It's meant to be something to work towards, as well as provide an incentive for people to run it more than a short handful of times. Sorry you're having bad luck with some of these drops, but the system is place is far better than the industry standard. Including the Gacha games mentioned earlier, which, btw, cost real money to get the things you want the grand majority of the time.

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Honestly it's a bad system if I have to wait 8 months just to be able to purchase the mount with the totems. If the player chooses to grind the 99 totems they should be able to pick up the mount within a month release or so. Having to wait that long isn't respecting the players time that's just dragging content for as long as you possibly can which is a theme for them with not unlocking the tome cap as an example.

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Originally Posted by Ath192

You do understand the concept of optional content don't you? Can you explain why everything in the game must be a joke to get? You're talking like these mounts are some core aspect of the game when in truth they are irrelevant as hell. Don't take this badly but don't you think its entitled to force the devs to cater only to your preferred version of looting?

I for one enjoy getting these EX mounts when I don't feel like starting another game and have done everything else I'm interested in the game. They're something mindless I can grind.

This game already gives out "relic" weapons like candy. If you can even call them that anymore.

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"Joke"

To begin with what I say if it is something that many players within the game if they have come to think about, 2 by clear is a good way. I've done savage and even ucob in 3 years ago now, I know it's Farming optional content and I know it's doing 99 times a stupid fight and putting up with shit from random people in pf is mentally tiring.

And since you say "optional content" then you shouldn't care what the fuck it changes.

I'm not in the opinion of lowering the difficulty....

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Originally Posted by Sifpatata

I'm not in the opinion of lowering the difficulty....

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And yet you are using their same argument. "Oh I want it to be easier so I can get my stuff faster and I don't have to do much for it." The game is easy enough as it is, and I don't think anyone can really call FFXIV a grindy game, and yet here we are still picking at the bones of the few things left.

I had the same feelings initially, but I gave it time before actually forming an opinion.

I've cleared 12 times now. It's not really that bad. It takes a while to get the mechanics down and be consistent, but once you do, it's got a good flow to it. Just need 7 other people that have it down, and in a [Duty Complete] party, you have that. Every farm party I've setup has just been simple clears. There are often lots of silly mistakes (that all players there normally do flawlessly) but we're all good and patch them up somehow. I've never seen enrage, not even once, not even in prog and not even with lots of deaths.

It's a fun fight. Once you have it down, it feels right for the person it's representing from FF9. I even dread getting the mount almost because I want the experience of doing the fight more. If you don't want to do it much, you can always unsync farm it in the future. Even later within this tier (7.3 patch) we'll be skipping so much more of the fight in the right party, and won't need to even save LB3 for the tanks.