'I Think I've Fallen Out of Love with FFXIV'

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Originally Posted by Fagotura

I'm sorry but this isn't a "forum" issue or a "me" issue.

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I wasn't saying it was a forum issue or a you issue, but rather that I've been here long enough to know that SE ain't gonna change things such a substantial amount that everyone universally starts expressing positivity on the forums.

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I suspect the only reason they get away with it is because this game's churn rate is very high and there is no "memory" in the playerbase. Compared to a lot of other MMOs, most of the players in the game have played only one or two expansions.

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Pretty much that. It's also the casual/returner factor - where they take a break, come back and complete two expansions they missed. So the gameplay is catered to guarantee the smooth progression of the potential player that hasn't played for 4+ years and just came to do MSQ - maybe a percentage of them do an extreme or a bit of savage, then they get bored and quit.

It depends a lot if they find a social connection as well. That's the biggest thing to tie someone to an MMORPG long-term. A lot of people don't find this, but the ones that do often get pulled back regardless of their enthusiasm for the game itself. Managing an FC, RP, being in a static, hunting, their partner plays, etc. Once they lose that social connection they often question if they will continue playing.

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so that they can get away with saying that they technically delivered on their promise.

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It takes a tremendous amount of bad faith to argue that things like Baneful Impaction delivered on their promise.

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What a lot of people have misunderstood when I've said things in the past is that I'm just arguing they technically did it, not that it's necessarily satisfactory.

I'm a newer player and thought coils and alexander royally sucked ass and weren't interesting whatsoever. Especially alexander. That felt so tedious and mind numbing.

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Originally Posted by Lizzit

I'm a newer player and thought coils and alexander royally sucked ass and weren't interesting whatsoever. Especially alexander. That felt so tedious and mind numbing.

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Coils and Alex belong to another game at this point. Doing them with the current battle system (post HW) makes little sense: it's like the encounters and the modern game talk two different languages and one of them just bruteforces the other into submission anyway. That and the powercreep is so dire that you can steamroll almost everything.

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Originally Posted by Jeeqbit

They announced moving away from status effects with the release of Stormblood and introduction of job gauges. I get why, because people who've never played MMORPGs before this one won't understand buffs/debuffs very much, but for those of us that understand them they are fine. But obviously they want to solve it for people that don't understand little status effects and cast bars hence those giant casts in the middle of the screen now. This is where I would like the old design but I understand why they are making it work for people new to MMOs.

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People can learn. They still had to add advanced hall of the novice to make them learn everything that's not a buff or debuff ANYWAY.
By doing this they literally changed the genre of the game. They alienated half of their vets.

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Originally Posted by Jeeqbit

It's obviously to reduce time wasting. If they are to add trash to Savage they should make it very easy, then it creates the feeling of a raid but you get to the boss quick at least. At the moment, the "travel" to the boss happens in a story instance or solo battle, with the Gates to Pandaemonium instance area being an example and the Omega solo battle being another.

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Exploring actual raid and story tied environments, and dealing with trash on the way, isn't wasting time. Solo instances aren't the answer. You only do them once. I already forgot about all of them. If they were actually interesting they'd be burned into my memory. And if they were actually interesting, why not put them in the fucking duty in the first place? Aren't we allowed to have fun there?
If anything those days, it's the stupid trial bosses in a circle arena that are wasting time, because we just want to be over with them.

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Originally Posted by Exmo

But... you just copy pasted someone else's article. You literally have nothing of substance to say yourself in this thread.

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What is this ad hominem even for?
I don't care who wrote the article. It conveys a message, which I do agree with, and which provides matter to discuss. If you have something of substance to actually discuss instead of attacking the OP, do it?

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Originally Posted by Valence

What is this ad hominem even for?
I don't care who wrote the article. It conveys a message, which I do agree with, and which provides matter to discuss. If you have something of substance to actually discuss instead of attacking the OP, do it?

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Why are you following me around these forums and responding snarkily to my comments? Why do you target me specifically to respond to when OP did what you accuse me of right before my post? Your behaviour is transparent. I'd like you to leave me alone now, thank you.

You're literally adding nothing of substance to this thread. If you don't agree with OP just move along.

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Originally Posted by Jeeqbit

[*]removing Kaiten.

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ah yes, good old "bring back kaiten" , another useless button that does nothing beside bloating the already bloated actian bars.

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Originally Posted by LinaAkayomi

Bro literally came and copypasted a whole vice article in the forums and called it a thread

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Given the amount of forummonger who typically refuses to click on links to see what’s an OP is talking about then immediately goes “Ok BuT i’M gOnNa MaNsPlAiN wHy YoU’rE wRoNg!!”, I don’t blame them. Sometimes people also feel insecure about external links, too. So there’s that.

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Originally Posted by Arohk

ah yes, good old "bring back kaiten" , another useless button that does nothing beside bloating the already bloated actian bars.

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If we go by that logic then 90% of our kits serve no purpose and could safely be removed.
Why do we need 4 different oGCDs that are just "does X potency with Y cooldown"?
Why do we need 5 different GCD "finishers" that are just "does X potency with Y cooldown" with the occasional restriction that you need to press an oGCD first to unlock it?


With very few exceptions they have no interactions with each other, just a random assortment of "press to do damage". They're just slotted somewhere into our burst windows because it's more damage, that's their only purpose.


And I'm not a Samurai main so ultimately I don't care either way, but Kaiten served more of an actual gameplay purpose than most of our completely disconnected "does X potency with Y seconds cooldown"-buttons ever did.

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Originally Posted by Absurdity

If we go by that logic then 90% of our kits serve no purpose and could safely be removed.
Why do we need 4 different oGCDs that are just "does X potency with Y cooldown"?
Why do we need 5 different GCD "finishers" that are just "does X potency with Y cooldown" with the occasional restriction that you need to press an oGCD first to unlock it?.

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90%? that is a little hyperbolic, but you are correct.

by having already so many buttons just to do damage is the reason stuff like kaiten has no place to exist.

The samurai Core rotation requires already 6 buttons, if you reduced that to 3-4, you could free space for additional complexity.

Have you tried going to couple's counseling?