My take on why FFXIV PvP is unsatisfactory.

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Originally Posted by Sinstrel

We'll know definitively about this come 7.2. I hope for sweeping changes to the mode entirely much like the Feast to CC changes. But I'm not holding my breath. I do find it odd that map gimmicks, environmental insta-kill mechanics, environmental buffs, and ground items are all part of the ranked mode which is supposed to be a measure of one's skill. But not part of the casual friendly modes which don't require skill and are supposed to be made for fun.

Isn't this backwards?

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We used to have environmental instant kills, then they either removed the map (borderlands-secure) or flattened the map (fields-shatter). Used to be a lot of fun spots if you were a monk or machinist or a reaper to knock/fear an opponent off a ledge and cause instant death, could've also been done with warrior's pull-in effect as they leapt off or dark knight's draw-in effect. It was a fairly popular thing to do if you wanted to goof off. Now, if try to do that, on shatter or seize, your opponent just lives with like half their health.

So yes we been regressing.

Updated the OP to account for the 7.16 patch. I am a little surprised and amused to get further demonstration of this issue so quickly.

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Originally Posted by Reese_Clairdale

I will concede that there are already ways to extract the exact timing of every skill, like comparing old and new footage frame by frame from the moment the hotkey lights up to the time the damage resolves, but this is a completely ridiculous task even as community effort when it could simply be listed on the tooltip. There are of course other ways as well, I would not be surprised if people have already discovered precise timings and used them for nefarious ends in the process of all of the other datamining over the years, but that makes it all the more important for people who play legit.

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Really want to endorse this. The more information the game provides, the more level the playing field and the less paranoid vanilla players become.