Nah, the entire post-Endwalker patch content was a trial series questline masquerading as MSQ. It was shallow, boring and just rehashing the story of older FF games. The villain of Dawntrail should have been Sareel Ja manipulating things from the shadows, as the story early on suggested he was doing. But that would have required competent writing, which was seemingly reserved for the Arcadion.
This character could have been main villain for an expansion
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09-10-2024, 03:41 PMPercibelTheren
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09-10-2024, 04:42 PMGarruss
With them talking about Multiverse or timelines I'm fully expecting them to one day do the tired "The villain is an evil version of you from X timeline"
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09-10-2024, 05:36 PMBabySneedI do remember seeing people criticizing the Endwalker patch quest story for being a "carbon copy of FFIV's story" which was an easy way to identify people who have never played FFIV because the Endwalker patch quest story has almost nothing to do with the story of FFIV outside of names, designs, and references. Endwalker Golbez's character has very little to do the character of FFIV Golbez (same with Zeromus), the story's premise revolves around FFXIV concepts not present in FFIV, none of the major twists/reveals present in FFIV were reused etc. You can say it leaned too much on FFIV references and fanservice which sure fair but the people saying it was unnecessary because we already have FFIV and that it was just the same thing again are clearly talking out of their assesQuote:
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09-11-2024, 01:16 AMBunnyQueenI felt like that whole quest line should have been a full expansion.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tunda
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09-11-2024, 01:26 AMgenuine_strangerStormblood should've been two expansions, just as EW with its post patch story, as well as DT.Quote:
Originally Posted by BunnyQueen
We begin to speed through any story beat without letting it breathe and build, just so the writers can get us to the new and shiny things.
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09-11-2024, 06:27 AMTunda
I think writers did a bad job for the character.. it had the base of "probably" a best villain in the game.. but putting this guy in post expansion was just a crime..
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09-11-2024, 11:05 AMDestati
As much as I prefer Golbez over Sphene as a villain and I would have loved to see more of the Void, I don't think it would have done well as an entire expansion. I'm gonna go off on something that may be completely inane, but and ever since the Doman Enclave, SE has tried expanding the concept of progression-based zone changes. I would assume that said void expansion would involved saving/restoring The Thirteenth somehow, and that would be a pretty good opportunity to apply that concept on an even larger scale, no?
Except... we kinda got a taste of that with Living Memory. Now, I didn't mind it being changed permanently (especially since I could switch it back with NG+ eventually), what I did mind is the lack of interactivity with the attractions and collision with nearly all the set pieces. (And of course the lack of any enterable buildings but that's an issue I have with maps in general) It makes the map feel so dead and boring and empty (and not in the way it's intended to be), and really killed the excitement and intrigue I had for it. I understand it's like that because it would look weird to players at a different point in the story but surely there can be a reasonable workaround to it?
But in any case, it got me thinking if the Void had zones that worked the same way, I think it'd be pretty miserable. I'd want to be able to really explore the Void and not merely look at set pieces.
Maybe in said expansion everything would just stay the same, but then what would be the point of going there if not try to restore it?
Sorry for going off topic but I wanted to add another personal hang-up I had with a Void expansion aside from narrative pacing issues and repeating everything else that's been said. -
09-11-2024, 05:30 PMPalladiamorsExcept it wasn't anything like Final Fantasy XIV and frankly it's an insult to imply that. They borrowed designs and names and that was it. Fauxlbez wasn't Golbez and that's a double entendre in this case, the story didn't even vaguely resemble it, and the literal only plot point sort of reused was Zero trading out the dark for the light.Quote:
Originally Posted by PercibelTheren
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09-12-2024, 05:19 AMKacho_NachoThere is much truth to this. The 13th, Zero, Durante, all of it should have provided a full expansion of content.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tunda
The whole questline felt rushed, the villain's motives were too shallow and ill thought out, and the conflicts were resolved too quickly. Zero and Durante deserved much better.
Hell, I think they should have split Endwalker into two expansions and left the 13th for a third expansion! It certainly would have felt fuller and the pacing would have been much better.
I understand that CBU3 felt some pressure to bring things to a close; but, what they gave us feels like something a freshman would have handed in when they neglected to do their term paper until the night before it was due. I've read much better fan fiction than the writing team is providing and that's bad.
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09-12-2024, 05:44 AMKurokaBehold, 8.0 will have a different shard for every Zone, burning through all of em within one expansion xDQuote:
Originally Posted by genuine_stranger