Yet another review. Spoiler: Sold me happy and new, gave me depressing broken record.

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Originally Posted by StealthPaladin

It was sold to us as a fun, chill, vacation with new modes of storytelling.

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No it wasn't... it was sold to us as a "Summer Vacation". Yoshi-P was constantly hinting that things were going to get kinda dark at every fanfest. That was never hidden. If you didn't pick up on that, then I would suggest working on recognizing subtle hints, because Yoshi-P's hints weren't even subtle...

Dawntrail lived up to the "Summer Vacation" advertisement in every sense of the phrase:

1: We went to a tropical island nation where we engaged with the locals in entertainment.

2: We had a much lighter story than the previous 4 expansions.

3: Our characters took a "Summer Vacation" from being the main character of the story.

Have buyer's remorse all you like, but don't try to play it off like they advertised something different than what we got.

Now, even as one who enjoyed Dawntrail, I will agree that it was probably the weakest showing of story-telling that the CBU3 team has put forth for us. I chalk that up to partial expectation bias, but also to the fact that this expansion is DEFINITELY the beginnings of setup for a new over-arching plot like the Hydaelyn/Zodiark plot. That requires a certain level of world building that comes across badly at first until you see the payoff. The bigger the eventual payoff, the more world building that's necessary. While I think this was a weak expansion story-wise, I have faith in the CBU3 team to build this story into something grand akin to what they've already given us in the past.

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Originally Posted by Banggugyangu

No it wasn't... it was sold to us as a "Summer Vacation". Yoshi-P was constantly hinting that things were going to get kinda dark at every fanfest. That was never hidden. If you didn't pick up on that, then I would suggest working on recognizing subtle hints, because Yoshi-P's hints weren't even subtle...

Dawntrail lived up to the "Summer Vacation" advertisement in every sense of the phrase:

1: We went to a tropical island nation where we engaged with the locals in entertainment.

2: We had a much lighter story than the previous 4 expansions.

3: Our characters took a "Summer Vacation" from being the main character of the story.

Have buyer's remorse all you like, but don't try to play it off like they advertised something different than what we got.

Now, even as one who enjoyed Dawntrail, I will agree that it was probably the weakest showing of story-telling that the CBU3 team has put forth for us. I chalk that up to partial expectation bias, but also to the fact that this expansion is DEFINITELY the beginnings of setup for a new over-arching plot like the Hydaelyn/Zodiark plot. That requires a certain level of world building that comes across badly at first until you see the payoff. The bigger the eventual payoff, the more world building that's necessary. While I think this was a weak expansion story-wise, I have faith in the CBU3 team to build this story into something grand akin to what they've already given us in the past.

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1. Did we play the same expansion? What was entertaining about all that talking to the locals? To me it felt more like a tourist brochure with a bunch of meaningless, boring information.

3. We were just a nodding, smiling maid for Wuk Lamat. Not even Krile, Alisaie or even Alphinaud behaved normally towards us. It was as if we were strangers. If someone behaved like that in real life, even though you've known each other for years, that would give me pause.

So, if you like that kind of thing, then I'm happy for you and enjoy the rest of this expansion to the fullest. But when I think of vacation, I think of sun, beach, water or even mountains. Swimming and sitting around the campfire with good friends, telling stories, grilling and eating together. Maybe even camping in tents and playing beach ball or other activities. This wasn't a vacation, not even close, this was disrespectful. We saved the world only to be used by a spoiled princess.

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Originally Posted by StealthPaladin

No you fully die when lahabrea kills you, if you dont want to accept the sound effects and lighting's meaning thats on you

and you died in the other timeline that graha went through - as did whole civilizations.

and others have died besides us -- plus originally I'm including every time you wipe in a raid.
oh wait you have zero deaths huh. yea ok. so basically we're rez abuser #1.
we even get to just suddenly be an ascian when it is convenient cause you know. not really into dying.
and hey that's cool with me, what's not is bringing all this depressing crap into a FANTASY GAME.
crystals bad. summons bad. rez magic bad. saving ascians bad.

let me save all the princesses. it wont even be cliche anymore cause no game lets you do that for 30 freakin years.

forget it. i don't want to just advance a story where if i didnt more people would be alive. garbage.
more like the warrior of death.

Besides there is no reason they can't use the same plot armor on anyone else even if that's true. But sure when venat uses a rock to res ppl its totally fine gotcha. you dont have to agree with me but this stands as my view

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in raids we never die we fall faint but ya I can get why you think die die but it's also a way to well be a MMO. the main character doesn't die at all due to the echo or something else but never we die we get close oh hell ya we do I will not deny it.


also last thing we are exploring a completely new area so completely new lore to discover was it will done weeeell depend but I think you get clouded by your personal preference not gonna lie with you

Dawn trail and the Community promised me a vaction. Relaxing sunlight, surfing on the beach, babes running along the sands like i was watching an episode of baywatch. I was promise no world ending threats just me and.....wait wait something wrong...I feel like im forgetting something important like im repressing....oh no.....

Thats right if your reading this post I just want you to know....No i did not enjoy the msq. Its tone death, lack of interesting race. Wuk ofcourse, terrible va acting, toxic positive community. Theres more but rather I wanna talk about something I really did like.

The locals I find some more interesting than others, the music, the dungeons, and i really cant explain why the arcadian raid is just so amazing. Theres too much to gush about.

Overall no hell no doubly hell no DT is not the beach episode we were promise its just boring sad excuse of expansion.....

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Originally Posted by Aneshda

1. Did we play the same expansion? What was entertaining about all that talking to the locals? To me it felt more like a tourist brochure with a bunch of meaningless, boring information.

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Where exactly did I say that it was "entertaining"? "Engaging in entertainment" and finding something "entertaining" are totally different things. We engaged in entertainment with the locals. If you didn't like that entertainment, that's perfectly fine, as what one finds entertaining is subjective. Disliking the entertainment, however, does not make it less "entertainment".

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3. We were just a nodding, smiling maid for Wuk Lamat. Not even Krile, Alisaie or even Alphinaud behaved normally towards us. It was as if we were strangers. If someone behaved like that in real life, even though you've known each other for years, that would give me pause.

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Sure... I don't disagree at all... but how does this disprove what I said? If anything, it reinforces what I said.

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So, if you like that kind of thing, then I'm happy for you and enjoy the rest of this expansion to the fullest. But when I think of vacation, I think of sun, beach, water or even mountains. Swimming and sitting around the campfire with good friends, telling stories, grilling and eating together. Maybe even camping in tents and playing beach ball or other activities. This wasn't a vacation, not even close, this was disrespectful. We saved the world only to be used by a spoiled princess.

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You're reading something in my words that simply is not there. All I said was that they promised a "summer vacation" and delivered a "summer vacation" in 3 different ways. That's an irrefutable fact. Whether or not you enjoyed that summer vacation is subjective.

Ever taken a summer vacation to Disney World? I have. Twice, even. I enjoyed it the first time, but the second was awful. No one in my family enjoyed their time at Disney World the 2nd time. That didn't make it less of a vacation, though.