Nothing will get fixed if the community allows culture warriors to seize control

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Originally Posted by Caitlinzulu

Review scores are a bad way to judge appreciation. You only have to look at the principle of review bombing. Also arent you more motivated to put it in a review ifyou have something you dont like? People who ate satisfied just play the game.

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I've stopped trusting reviews when Elden Ring's DLC got review bombed as the worst thing Fromsoft ever released.

Titanman or not, I somewhat agree. The more the argument leans into identity politics, the more the devs might be inclined to err on the side of those who don't even play the game.

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Originally Posted by Caitlinzulu

Review scores are a bad way to judge appreciation. You only have to look at the principle of review bombing. Also arent you more motivated to put it in a review ifyou have something you dont like? People who ate satisfied just play the game.

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That's alright. You can believe whatever you want online. I however agree with the bad reviews as it's a good reflection of how I and many others I know feel about the story.
So to me, those reviews speak the truth.

Yeah, real world culture and politics should be kept out of game feedback.

New year, new dumb buzz words.

Everyone that pays to play this game is entitled to their opinion, even if you don't like it, even if you don't agree. Everyone should share how they feel, there is no guarantee any of our feedback (valid or not) will be taken into consideration. But the best way to make a splash is to encourage more public facing entities to discuss their hypes or gripes. Publicity is the only way to be noticed by the idiots in charge who care more about finding ways to use AI to cut corners than releasing a quality item. (I'm referring to SE's overall interest and goals, this isn't a claim that DT was written by AI.)

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Originally Posted by HighlanderClone

How much do you want to bet that SE now believes people dissatisfied about Wuk Lamat are all just people who are more interested in wokeness or anti-wokeness or culture war BS?

The community needs to speak up and say: no, this isn't us.

99% of people dissatisfied with Wuk Lamat are dissatisfied about the poor writing, poor characterization, poor quality control, poor pacing, and frankly what is an extremely obvious siphoning of resources to let junior devs helm the ship so senior devs can make some other third project that none of us paid for.

It's time to denounce people who want to twist criticisms into culture war BS and focus on the issues: the horrible job designs, the lackluster undertuned raids, the atrocious story, and broken, poorly thought out systems like DC travel.

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We get it you have a red hat. Please go play the game now and stop posting here.

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Originally Posted by Ellona_Andrivari

We get it you have a red hat. Please go play the game now and stop posting here.

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I sincerely hope this is a troll attempt, I really do, because their take is so milquetoast I could have it for breakfast.

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Originally Posted by Volgia

I think your anger is misplaced. Sometimes when criticizing these things today (which, tbh, has been a thing since the release of Shadowbringers) you will always find some dude bringing out that the reason this happened is because Square Enix invested way too much money in the "ethics" department and the conversation will devolve from there.

As for the story, this hatred for the MSQ was up in EW, SB and even ShB at some point. If you don't believe me just look in the forums.

For instance ... EW is bad: https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/threads/470440

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EW was nowhere *near* this level of criticism of the msq, there was like, 1 single megathread. Dawntrail has dozens and one that has already approached the EW thread

Probably not gonna happen here without active mod intervention to keep people in line and on track. Especially on topics specifically around Wuk's voice actress.

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Originally Posted by Volgia

I've stopped trusting reviews when Elden Ring's DLC got review bombed as the worst thing Fromsoft ever released.

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People should honestly take reviews with a grain of salt because of this kind of thing. It's also a good idea for people to learn who's tastes align with their own and trust those people. One of my favorite games of the year is Rise of the Ronin. That game got some mediocre reviews, but because I love anything Team Ninja does, I knew going into it I would probably like it anyway. Whenever Team Ninja releases a new game I check to see if this one Japanese streamer has been playing it for 100+ hours. I don't know Japanese, but I love to watch the guy because he lives for putting 500+ hours into TN games. I saw he'd been playing Rise of the Ronin nonstop and that was all I needed to know to know I would enjoy the game.