The Housing System In The Eyes Of A Newer Player

i would limit large houses to free companies (at least 10 members) only.
cant speak for every server but at least in EU there seem to be always small houses available.

and i would remove the demolish timer. instead i would make the players pay rent to be even more of a gilsink. it would be payable several months early for players to be able to take breaks from the game in between.

The system now is fine, at least it is RNG and not bots owning all the houses.

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Originally Posted by DiaDeem

Imagine sitting at your computer/console for 12 hours straight (or longer if the system feels like it) doing nothing more than spamming a placard among 50 other people that want that same plot.

Wanna watch a show in the mean time or listen to a podcast? What if someone beats you to the click while you were pausing or changing the episode? Are you gonna risk it? Need to get food? Are you gonna risk going to the bathroom now? You wanna sleep? Someone else is gonna snatch your chance at the house, and don't forget you've already invested 8 hours into clicking. You're not gonna quit now, are you?

Then you lose anyway cause a bot was clicking 5 times faster than you ever could. Better go find a new plot to do it all over again.

Just the fact that you can do literally ANYTHING ELSE with your time while the lotto is running makes the new system better. They're both coin tosses, but only the old system literally chained you to your PC/Console while you were tossing that coin for 12 hours straight. So... don't get me wrong: The lotto system is far from being a solution to the housing problem, but placard spamming was way WAY worse.

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All this and a high chance of not even being beaten by a botter, but by someone or more likely an FC relocating even before the timer was up. A lot of the time when you're the only person there cause it's 3am and everyone else but fisher mains are asleep. Could the current system be better? Yes. But there is no way we should go back to how it was. This coming from someone who did get a house via the old system.

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Originally Posted by Brynne

I would implement instanced housing for personal houses. If I could redo everything, I'd have never put personal housing in the wards at all. If I were working with what's already in, I'd put instanced housing in addition to the wards, so you could either have a ward house or an instanced house. Instanced houses would have the benefit of not being lost when you can't log in for more than 45 days, and you could also upgrade them up to large size with gil.

If I were going to make minor changes to avoid development costs, I'd put an entrance to workshops outside of housing (maybe at the grand company, maybe at Cid's workshop in Mor Dhona) and allow FCs to unlock them without needing a house. This would at least free up a tiny bit of space in the wards, hopefully. Then I'd work on apartments, making them upgradable to medium and large interiors, and if possible, add a balcony where a small garden plot could be placed.

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They actually want to be able to increase the size of the apartments. Maybe that'll happen after they finalize the ability to hide (remove) the pillars inside houses. I have firmly believed that they need to allow people to be able to cross breed plants inside their apartments. And to somehow allow for alts to share a house. Do those two things and let FCs without a house some way to access the workshop and a lot of woe should go away.

I honestly think they'd find it a lot easier making rewards for content if housing was more available in the game.

I love trophy items from hard content and wish I had a better places to display them than my house that no one can ever see because its on a different data center than the one everyone plays on.

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Originally Posted by DiaDeem

Imagine sitting at your computer/console for 12 hours straight (or longer if the system feels like it) doing nothing more than spamming a placard among 50 other people that want that same plot.

Wanna watch a show in the mean time or listen to a podcast? What if someone beats you to the click while you were pausing or changing the episode? Are you gonna risk it? Need to get food? Are you gonna risk going to the bathroom now? You wanna sleep? Someone else is gonna snatch your chance at the house, and don't forget you've already invested 8 hours into clicking. You're not gonna quit now, are you?

Then you lose anyway cause a bot was clicking 5 times faster than you ever could. Better go find a new plot to do it all over again.

Just the fact that you can do literally ANYTHING ELSE with your time while the lotto is running makes the new system better. They're both coin tosses, but only the old system literally chained you to your PC/Console while you were tossing that coin for 12 hours straight. So... don't get me wrong: The lotto system is far from being a solution to the housing problem, but placard spamming was way WAY worse.

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Remember people saying "it rewards persistence and filters out people that don't really want a house!"

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Oh! And during the days of placard camping, existing homeowners could relocate their house whenever they wanted. They could skip the lockout timer entirely. That had to feel reaaaal nice camping a house for hours only to have someone come dump their existing house on the lot. :X

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Originally Posted by Boblawblah

Remember people saying "it rewards persistence and filters out people that don't really want a house!"

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The lotto system is "better" but it's solved a symptom, not the actual problem.

The actual problem is the shortage of houses due to them being a limited supply. No one would've been camping placards if everyone could get a house to begin with.

Now you can roll on a plot once a week with like 30-100+ other people and lose, I guess. Your chances of getting a house in the current system are still incredibly small.

Make every housing feature available for apartments. problem solved.