Please Don't Rework Huton (Ninja) Live-Letter Feedback

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Originally Posted by Taliriah

I don't know where and if they're adding depth, but removing pointless busywork is good nonetheless.

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Unfortunately, after years of removing depth (and everything remotely resembling it) from the jobs, they're not suddenly going to start bringing it back. At the rate we're going, it's only a matter of time before they ax something you like about the job you play--all in the name of removing "pointless busywork", because that is quite literally all that is left now.

Please do. Upkeep buffs are always annoying in games with downtime.

So, instead of using an armor crush about every 2 aeolian edges to refresh your buff you're going to be using armor crush about every 2 aeolian edges to charge your buff?
Is using huton once before the fight and watching the pinwheel tick down that important?
Mechanically it feels like it's just going to remove some pre-fight tedious preparations.

I loved NIN in ShB, I love it more in EW, and I'm very hype for DT after what we learned today.

I have no particular attachment to huton qua GCD buff, and I won't mind no longer getting got when tanks insta pull before I've timed huton. Plus, now I get to use wind element on opponents and not just on myself.

Playing Ninja in 50 content just became as easy and uninteresting as playing Reaper, lmao. Pretty soon there won't be a job left where a brand new player can escape pushing the same five buttons for 300+ hours.

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Originally Posted by Silhart

Unfortunately, after years of removing depth (and everything remotely resembling it) from the jobs, they're not suddenly going to start bringing it back. At the rate we're going, it's only a matter of time before they ax something you like about the job you play--all in the name of removing "pointless busywork", because that is quite literally all that is left now.

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I mean i never thought there was any depth myself so it makes no difference to me.

As long as the mobs/boss follow a repetitive scripted pattern, so do the players.

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Originally Posted by vetch

Playing Ninja in 50 content just became as easy and uninteresting as playing Reaper, lmao. Pretty soon there won't be a job left where a brand new player can escape pushing the same five buttons for 300+ hours.

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Playing 50 ninja is just the most annoying thing currently . I think it will add more to do since you can put a aoe wind attack and more raitons in your rotation. 52-60 experience is no better as EW basically made that level range just Huton maintenance with Armor crush/54 , Hakke Muji/52 and Hurajin/60 . When they added Hurajin as a safety net was when Huton lost its management complexity to where you constantly had to think about how to keep it up or to recast it at the right times during transitions . Who says this new kunai buff gauge isn't more complex then paying attention to a timer , it's certainly looks more fun to engage with . We don't know anything about it other than it's used for AE and possibly Raijus to build and maintain stacks during burst , seems like a better trade off to me in the overall ninja experience

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Originally Posted by Sigiria

So, instead of using an armor crush about every 2 aeolian edges to refresh your buff you're going to be using armor crush about every 2 aeolian edges to charge your buff?
Is using huton once before the fight and watching the pinwheel tick down that important?
Mechanically it feels like it's just going to remove some pre-fight tedious preparations.

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Actually let me change that stance, if anything it's probably gonna add a little bit more depth than the current system since at least now you'll have to try to enter the burst phases with enough stacks to fit as many aeolian edges as you can into it instead of just "is timer under 30sec? Yes: Armor crush | No: Aeolian edge"

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Originally Posted by Sigiria

Actually let me change that stance, if anything it's probably gonna add a little bit more depth than the current system since at least now you'll have to try to enter the burst phases with enough stacks to fit as many aeolian edges as you can into it instead of just "is timer under 30sec? Yes: Armor crush | No: Aeolian edge"

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I'm just gonna speculate but I think the kunai meter will buff both Aeolian edge and Raijus leading you to at least use Armor Crush twice to setup your burst . Maybe Hide will now reset you kunai meter and mudra charges since pre hide Doton and Huton aren't a thing no more . I kinda hope the kunai adds a guaranteed crit or DH and not just added potency because you already get added potency with Bunshin , buff stacking to make your attacks really impactful

I think some people are overestimating new Huton and its 'Hide' effect; it's just a method to gain the Suiton buff that hits an AoE instead of single target, so trash packs take less thought about how to use your cooldowns. Those dungeons won't streamline themselves.