FC house abuse

Your characterization of FC's with 10 or fewer members as "abusers" is as wild as it is self-serving. Don't be that guy; not only are you capable of being so much better than this, but you're making your FC look bad by espousing this kind of baseless toxicity.

As much as I dislike multiowners, this would punish a lot of small FCs unfairly. Some people prefer smaller communities and there is nothing wrong with that.

Orrr instead of hating players for a system designed by the devs and sharing poopoo ideas; just move to a less populated server

They just need to remove the stupid salvage from the submarines, no item in the game should instantly sell to NPCs for a gazillion gil and given out to the player in such great quantity.
It should only reward mounts, housing items, rolls, minions, etc. Everything should be MB interaction only.

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Originally Posted by ZiraZ

They just need to remove the stupid salvage from the submarines, no item in the game should instantly sell to NPCs for a gazillion gil and given out to the player in such great quantity.
It should only reward mounts, housing items, rolls, minions, etc. Everything should be MB interaction only.

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It's not even a gazillion gil unless you take the route of owning 50+ houses (as told by a couple people in the community who make around 1B a month through sub farming).

The most expensive item out of submarines is around 50k per and it's RNG dependent on if you get that multiple times (I believe the max haul (with RNG luck) with fully optimized subs in one FC is around 400-500k?). You can make more from market flipping in a week (50 million vs. 3-4m?) than you can on submarines unless you stack housing. Even then, you still have to invest in leveling and gearing out 4 subs which isn't cheap either. One person taking one FC house to make passive gil isn't going to see "gazillions" for months or years.

Personally, if it switched to just MB interaction, I think it would only make market flipping even more lucrative than it is and lead to other problems forming lol.

If you want to solve it then it could be that you can only be a FC master on 1 server, that would solve some of it and also since, if it is FCs on multiple servers with the same master account and not wanting to lose it, then would have to bring in another active member as FC lead, which would tag that person doing such for not being able to make own FC as master either or something down those lines.

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Originally Posted by LianaThorne

You can make more from market flipping in a week (50 million vs. 3-4m?) than you can on submarines unless you stack housing. Even then, you still have to invest in leveling and gearing out 4 subs which isn't cheap either. One person taking one FC house to make passive gil isn't going to see "gazillions" for months or years.

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Yeah, my 4 submarines make 14 mil per month in total. Whoop-de-doo. It has cost me more than 60 mil to buy their equipment and repair kits lmao, not to mention months of daily logins to level them up to this point. That gil doesn't come for free.

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Originally Posted by LianaThorne

Personally, if it switched to just MB interaction, I think it would only make market flipping even more lucrative than it is and lead to other problems forming lol.

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It would. Unlike submarines, the market board can be botted to gain money faster and it happens every day. I thought people were against botting? Whenever the suggestion of replacing salvage with tradeable items comes up it makes me wonder if those people are just itching to use certain "advantages" they might possess.

No. I don't want to lose my submarines.

ok I get it people want to continue rmting with submarines

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Originally Posted by WinglessSeraphim

What a great idea. I'll be sure to tell my old FC mates that their FC, est. 09/2013, that now have dwindled down to maybe 9 active members and close friends who can't log on every single day due to reality, that their time has come.

BTW, being on Chaos, there isn't really a housing shortage due to FCs.

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The viscosity of this shade made me chortle a chort so deep that I spit out my tea. This made my day. Thank you :)