No new FFXIV info until mid August.

It really puzzles me how some people always get so hostile when they voice their views.

I have no problem with them releasing their info as they see fit. I just wish they would mean what they say. Come on SE is notorious for having horrible explanations of time.

all summer long is all summer long. From its start to finish. Obviously they are not doing that lol again i dont care, i just don't understand why they dont say mid August till end of September. That would be more then fine. I am in no rush to see, in fact I hope they take their time it may be well worth the wait :)

I am skeptical on 2.0 because se more often then not says something then when it comes out its either nothing like they portrayed example: I remember them claiming they were releasing relics for casuals, turns out they were talking about mythics which are far from casual lol. Or how about "new avatars soon!" 2006, we got them in 2009.

Just a couple examples. One of my friends is a long se fan like myself and he knows what I mean lol he always says to me, "come on Cesil this is SE we are talking about..."

So yeh, IDC about waiting, I'll wait big deal. Just wish they would mean what they say, or choose their wording carefully as it can get misinterpreted easily.

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Originally Posted by Tonkra

are you freaking joking?


the last patches ALL have been within the time schedule!

the start of the promotion campaign of version 2.0. is ALSO WITHIN time schedule (look up that fuckin' pdf time schedule from one year ago)


and WHY should they release informations about 2.0. even before the last patch 1.23? so that no one shows interest in the showdown of the main story? that in mind is all being calculated by marketing guys of the SE department..

and even if they publish new videoes now.. its way too early.. 2.0. will be released early next year, so why should they start with it exactly now? and as i mentioned.. it is clear that they dont want to promote 2.0. when they release patch 1.23 end of this months..

seriously... NO sense.

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You don't remember all of the delays with patch 1.21? All of the delays that EVERY major patch seems to have? Jesus christ? Do you people have selective memory or something?

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Originally Posted by Eekiki

Okay, so devs, just post the entire story, maps of all the newly designed areas, pictures of all the upcoming gear, monsters...you know, everything about the game. Post it all here. Ingolf would rather read about it in a forum post than play the actual game.

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Stop strawmanning. I never said anything of the sort.

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Originally Posted by Mug

It really puzzles me how some people always get so hostile when they voice their views.

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Same. This forum is notoriously bad for flipping out whenever someone says anything even slightly negative about XIV.

I've been around Video game forums for a long time. This is the first community forum that actually makes me stare at my monitor in disbelief. Even when the devs ADMIT to doing something wrong, people will still defend them. It's a pretty interesting phenomenon at least. I assume it's born out of the excessive negativity circling XIV outside of the forum.

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Originally Posted by Babydoll

I have no problem with them releasing their info as they see fit. I just wish they would mean what they say. Come on SE is notorious for having horrible explanations of time.

all summer long is all summer long. From its start to finish. Obviously they are not doing that lol again i dont care, i just don't understand why they dont say mid August till end of September. That would be more then fine.

I am skeptical on 2.0 because se more often then not says something then when it comes out its either nothing like they portrayed example: I remember them claiming they were releasing relics for casuals, turns out they were talking about mythics which are far from casual lol. Or how about "new avatars soon!" 2006, we got them in 2009.

Just a couple examples. One of my friends is a long se fan like myself and he knows what I mean lol he always says to me, "come on Cesil this is SE we are talking about..."

So yeh, IDC about waiting, I'll wait big deal. Just wish they would mean what they say. Now you can argue all summer long is mid august till September. Well it starts before August no?

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I find it funny how we're always sitting here discussing definitions. When is summer? When is the beginning/middle/end of a month?

Everything is always up in the air, but in general SE always release things at the very last minute (when they don't delay it), as time shows over and over again. So I always expect that.

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Originally Posted by Ingolf

You don't remember all of the delays with patch 1.21? All of the delays that EVERY major patch seems to have? Jesus christ? Do you people have selective memory or something?

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woot.. it has been one patch out of time... the last patch was in time, and the next will be also. and i can remember that the patches before 1.21 have been also in time.
so maybe you have some problems with your memory.


i cant wait myself.. but can you tell me if it really makes sense to start a promotional campaign even before the last story content patch has been released. so no one will be interested into the "old" stuff anymore?

and we now know that they will start with it in august, so it will start in august. and on the other side it makes no sense, because they still promote the old client with one last content story patch.
it is obvious that SE wants to start with the focus on 2.0. AFTER the story has been told in version 1.23.

cant you really understand that marketing concept? wuay... maybe noot.


you and many other people in here sound like children who cant wait for Santa Claus in the end of september. seriously.

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Originally Posted by Mug

I find it funny how we're always sitting here discussing definitions. When is summer? When is the beginning/middle/end of a month?

Everything is always up in the air, but in general SE always release things at the very last minute (when they don't delay it), as time shows over and over again. So I always expect that.

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I should have learned my lesson, I agree with that much. I remember how much WotG was delayed with XI.

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Originally Posted by Ingolf

Same. This forum is notoriously bad for flipping out whenever someone says anything even slightly negative about XIV.

I've been around Video game forums for a long time. This is the first community forum that actually makes me stare at my monitor in disbelief. Even when the devs ADMIT to doing something wrong, people will still defend them. It's a pretty interesting phenomenon at least. I assume it's born out of the excessive negativity circling XIV outside of the forum.

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no its just you sound like a crying baby because you dont get your information (videos or whatever) now..

nothing has been delayed concerning that. the promotion campaign is within the time schedule which has been set up one year ago (!). as well as the most patches. so your complain is really unnecessary and sounds like a child shouting for his lollipop or christmas present.

really unnecessary and inappropriate

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Originally Posted by Ingolf

Stop strawmanning. I never said anything of the sort.

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Um, you're the one strawmanning. There are delays with one patch, therefore EVERY patch is delayed?

They showed a tech demo of 2.0 at E3, concept art for RSE at Japan Expo, more stuff certainly incoming at Gamescom, so there's been NO NEW INFORMATION?

The only thing they've changed is where they originally said the teaser trailer for 2.0 would be shown at E3. They decided to hold off on that until mid-August for marketing purposes, so that they could talk more about the game itself at E3, Japan Expo, and Gamescom. And so they could release the final patch before 2.0 first, so that version 1 could be "complete" before the trailer for 2.0 goes public.

Other than that, EVERYTHING is going according to the schedule they put in place a year ago.

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Originally Posted by Tonkra

woot.. it has been one patch out of time... the last patch was in time, and the next will be also. and i can remember that the patches before 1.21 have been also in time.
so maybe you have some problems with your memory.


i cant wait myself.. but can you tell me if it really makes sense to start a promotional campaign even before the last story content patch has been released. so no one will be interested into the "old" stuff anymore?

and we now know that they will start with it in august, so it will start in august. and on the other side it makes no sense, because they still promote the old client with one last content story patch.
it is obvious that SE wants to start with the focus on 2.0. AFTER the story has been told in version 1.23.

cant you really understand that marketing concept? wuay... maybe noot.


you and many other people in here sound like children who cant wait for Santa Claus in the end of september. seriously.

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You're right

They never delay.