[RANT] Dearest Sage Mains

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Originally Posted by Astrahime

Just remove Addersting, remove Toxikon's AoE component, and decrease Toxikon's damage slightly.

Problem solved. Sages don't need to spend 900 MP and then wait for a shield to break to do something that Scholar does for just 400 MP.


Better yet, nerf shield potencies and allow both SGE and SCH shields to stack together.

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I honestly don't think making Toxikon even more useless than it already is would solve the issue.
I don't even think these players are fishing for Toxikon stacks in the first place, I think they simply have no idea how to play the job properly.

How many Whitemages have we seen over the years who let you die because all they cast is Cure 1, even far beyond the level where you gain more powerful spells?
How many Whitemages have we seen that spam Medica 2 for every little bit of damage?

I think it's simply the exact same case with these Sage players. Despite long time healer mains hating how copy&paste it's design is, it is popular among the general playerbase, second only to Whitemage.
So you get a lot of players on the job who think that every AoE needs to be shielded because they don't know any better.

It's really no different than the occasional SCH that casts Succor every 15 seconds for basically no reason, Sage is just more popular and consequently the bad Sages you encounter more numerous.

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Originally Posted by Burmecia

Why is that a thing on the first place?

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Because sage shields generate resources so in CBU3's infinite wisdom they take priority despite being weaker.

Typical job design team.

lmao had this happen to me today in some random roulette. spread out a crit adlo because I knew people were about to get messed up and watched the crit part melt away as the sage overwrote it. felt so unsatisfying, tbh.

Spreadlo just needs to be exempt from being overwritten, eukaraian spells can overwrite succor since eukaria actually generates resources, SCH has ET which cracks the shield before it applies and SGE’s Pepsis needs the shields to apply before they can be cracked but there really is no conceivable reason why spreadlo should be able to be overridden

Shields generating addersting is great design, how the shields interact is the weird part. As it stands, the scholar should plan around a sage's shields. And if it's 24-man, who cares.

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Originally Posted by Teno

Shields generating addersting is great design, how the shields interact is the weird part. As it stands, the scholar should plan around a sage's shields. And if it's 24-man, who cares.

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To be fair it’s hard to “plan around SGE’s shields” when you set up an entire spreadlo (and use a lot of your resources to do it) then the SGE just smooth brain goes “hmmm yes eukrasian prognosis is what we need right now”

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Originally Posted by Supersnow845

To be fair it’s hard to “plan around SGE’s shields” when you set up an entire spreadlo (and use a lot of your resources to do it) then the SGE just smooth brain goes “hmmm yes eukrasian prognosis is what we need right now”

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The best plan to have when you're paired with a random SGE in DF parties is to play as usual until they overwrite your spreadlo once, then never touch Adlo/Succor again for the rest of the duty.

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Originally Posted by Rein_eon_Osborne

The best plan to have when you're paired with a random SGE in DF parties is to play as usual until they overwrite your spreadlo once, then never touch Adlo/Succor again for the rest of the duty.

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I have actually done this. I even used Dissipation on cooldown and used all stacks exclusively on Energy Drain.

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Originally Posted by rawker

I have actually done this. I even used Dissipation on cooldown and used all stacks exclusively on Energy Drain.

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That’s my go to in alliance raids

“You wanna pump out enough healing for 5 alliances worth of parties”

Sure go ahead, I’ll just be over here doing my 9 energy drain opener and contributing nothing besides the occasional embrace cast

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Originally Posted by Supersnow845

That’s my go to in alliance raids

“You wanna pump out enough healing for 5 alliances worth of parties”

Sure go ahead, I’ll just be over here doing my 9 energy drain opener and contributing nothing besides the occasional embrace cast

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If you can fit all those E.Drains during for the entirety of Chain Stratagem without delaying your GCDs, it would be perfect. :D