Third-party Tools Can Negatively Affect Players Not Using Them

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Originally Posted by LilimoLimomo

If people pressure you to use 3rd party mods or admit to using 3rd party mods themselves, you can report them for that. That includes requests for logs. By reporting such people, you clean things up a bit. By going along with it, you allow it to propagate. The choice is yours.

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Who even asks for logs? You can just look those up on your own lol.

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Originally Posted by LilimoLimomo

If people pressure you to use 3rd party mods or admit to using 3rd party mods themselves, you can report them for that. That includes requests for logs. By reporting such people, you clean things up a bit. By going along with it, you allow it to propagate. The choice is yours.

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People who request logs are generally recruiting on discord, which you cannot report them for as it's not in-game. Nobody is asking for logs in a random PF. They can just look them up or install a plugin without ever saying a word.

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Originally Posted by Ivtrix

They don’t care

Please refer to the last JP live Q&A, where the response shifted from “3rd party is illegal please do not use it” to “please stop asking us this question”

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You see it as they supposedly don't care. I see that response as "Stop asking the same question you already know the answer to"

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Originally Posted by RitsukoSonoda

You see it as they supposedly don't care. I see that response as "Stop asking the same question you already know the answer to"

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Literally this tbh, but hey it's like a brigade at this point

It's been years and years and these people still don't understand that they don't want to, insane to me

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Originally Posted by Saraide

Who even asks for logs? You can just look those up on your own lol.

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Don't ask me, OP is the one who mentioned it in their post! I'm just responding to it ^^

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Originally Posted by Stormpeaks

Literally this tbh, but hey it's like a brigade at this point

It's been years and years and these people still don't understand that they don't want to, insane to me

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It's less they don't understand and more they don't like said decision. Some people really get uppity about third party stuff even when it has zero actual impact on them.

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Originally Posted by LilimoLimomo

Don't ask me, OP is the one who mentioned it in their post! I'm just responding to it ^^

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Yeah well, prog point liars are far lower than even the most egregious 3rd party users in my book.
The same thing has happened in every MMO since the dawn of time, if the devs don't give the players the tools, the players will create them for themselves.
Want people to stop asking for logs for very difficult massive time sink content? Add prog point checkpoints by phase for PF recruitment or the log asking will continue.

I'm tired of these cheaters always trying to justify their cheating saying it has no impact on others when it does. They have an overwhelming advantage over console players and those that don't use cheats.

Cheaters does have an impact so many times I lose queue in roulette cause these cheaters can see what dungeon/trial is popping with their cheats so they can withdraw. Making me wait in queue longer.

These cheaters are just as bad as rmt if not worse. Cheaters also cry the loudest saying there is no content or stuff is too easy yet they can't do anything without cheating.

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Originally Posted by Dirwen

I'm tired of these cheaters always trying to justify their cheating saying it has no impact on others when it does. They have an overwhelming advantage over console players and those that don't use cheats.

Cheaters does have an impact so many times I lose queue in roulette cause these cheaters can see what dungeon/trial is popping with their cheats so they can withdraw. Making me wait in queue longer.

These cheaters are just as bad as rmt if not worse. Cheaters also cry the loudest saying there is no content or stuff is too easy yet they can't do anything without cheating.

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Imagine doing mentor roulette and withdrawing because you know its gonna be an old level synced Ex lmao just another reason to take that achievement and the people who already got the title/mount less seriously.

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Originally Posted by LilFlowers

Imagine doing mentor roulette and withdrawing because you know its gonna be an old level synced Ex lmao just another reason to take that achievement and the people who already got the title/mount less seriously.

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Serious question, does anyone take any titles seriously? I don't think I've had titles turned on in years.