How has every other major MMO solved the problem of downtime other than FF14?

When I played WoW, I used to joke that they installed patches on all the servers from stacks of 1.44 MB floppy disks. Yes, they had significant downtime too.

Gives you more time to play other games. lol

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Originally Posted by Noumenon

Why is it that only FF14, among the major MMOs, require an entire day just to get a new patch in for maintenance?

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Your question makes no sense, given that other MMOs from time to time also require an entire day or more for patching and maintenance.

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Originally Posted by SamSmoot

When I played WoW, I used to joke that they installed patches on all the servers from stacks of 1.44 MB floppy disks. Yes, they had significant downtime too.

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But does not FFXIV use old outdated hardware from late 2000s? no? Someone told about it during EU datacenter split in half, coz old Pentium 4 was not able to handle it, and now they want to move into cloud, coz old hardware is way to expensive in order of electricity bills.

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Originally Posted by Kes13a

not to mention anyone who pays a sub a "paypig"

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Then he oinked at Storm, so pretty much everyone who reads these forums regularly should know this by now.

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Originally Posted by Snorky

Then he oinked at Storm, so pretty much everyone who reads these forums regularly should know this by now.

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I think he oinked at me because i pointed out he exploits people through rmt when he claimed square enix modders and art commissions exploit peoples love of the game. Because he claimed supposedly paying a subscription fee is exploiting people and the other things he mentioned.

Only thing that's wild imo is that your subtime's still ticking even while the game's down for the day. And if they need more time? "Sorry! Please understand!" and then more sub time gets eaten with no talk of compensation at all. Nobody here seems to mind it. I find that remarkable. Trying to explain to some XIV enthusiasts about how other games with timed elements will pause their timers on these things until the game comes up, is like talking to a wall. Or how other games will have downtime go longer than expected and compensate their players with mailed buffs or cute temporary trinkets or w/e. And telling them how other MMOs with lighter payment models (eg. just buy once but don't get charged monthly or for expacs, or completely f2p but there's a cash shop, etc.) have similarly priced cash shops to XIV just gets you called a Titanmen alt.

I think it only strikes me as odd because I came to XIV from a pretty abusive f2p kmmo and when I started XIV, everyone was telling me about how much better this game was and how the devs didn't just see you as a pig to suck money from, but all you have to do is look at the monetization models to know that's a load of crap. This game ... literally takes advantage of every mmo monetization method available. It quadruple dips. It's buy to play. It's subscription based on a monthly scale but offers major content updates 3 times a year. It's pay per expansion. It's got a cash shop with 30 dollar mounts and 20+ dollar outfits that come as a mandatory full set with no option to buy bits and pieces at a discount. And the same people who'd shit on f2p games for being greedy are totally fine when it's Square doing it and basically I'm flabbergasted.

But no, actually taking the game down for a day? By all means, do what you have to do. Take it down longer if you need to, to get it done right. I don't really care when games are down and it's not like they did it on a holiday like they've done in the past (and didn't refund subtime then either btw). It's really just the principle of paying for subtime and not being able to play and not having that time refunded that's bothersome. And it's weird to see people defend it and talk about Yoshi like he's their uncle.

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Originally Posted by Kes13a

not to mention anyone who pays a sub a "paypig"

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To be fair going oink oink at people who buy the garbage out of the cash shop kinda funny

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Originally Posted by Avoidy

Only thing that's wild imo is that your subtime's still ticking even while the game's down for the day. And if they need more time? "Sorry! Please understand!" and then more sub time gets eaten with no talk of compensation at all. Nobody here seems to mind it. I find that remarkable. Trying to explain to some XIV enthusiasts about how other games with timed elements will pause their timers on these things until the game comes up, is like talking to a wall. Or how other games will have downtime go longer than expected and compensate their players with mailed buffs or cute temporary trinkets or w/e. And telling them how other MMOs with lighter payment models (eg. just buy once but don't get charged monthly or for expacs, or completely f2p but there's a cash shop, etc.) have similarly priced cash shops to XIV just gets you called a Titanmen alt.

I think it only strikes me as odd because I came to XIV from a pretty abusive f2p kmmo and when I started XIV, everyone was telling me about how much better this game was and how the devs didn't just see you as a pig to suck money from, but all you have to do is look at the monetization models to know that's a load of crap. This game ... literally takes advantage of every mmo monetization method available. It quadruple dips. It's buy to play. It's subscription based on a monthly scale but offers major content updates 3 times a year. It's pay per expansion. It's got a cash shop with 30 dollar mounts and 20+ dollar outfits that come as a mandatory full set with no option to buy bits and pieces at a discount. And the same people who'd shit on f2p games for being greedy are totally fine when it's Square doing it and basically I'm flabbergasted.

But no, actually taking the game down for a day? By all means, do what you have to do. Take it down longer if you need to, to get it done right. I don't really care when games are down and it's not like they did it on a holiday like they've done in the past (and didn't refund subtime then either btw). It's really just the principle of paying for subtime and not being able to play and not having that time refunded that's bothersome. And it's weird to see people defend it and talk about Yoshi like he's their uncle.

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Actually, they've always given sub time for any maint that extends beyond 24h.

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Originally Posted by Avoidy

Only thing that's wild imo is that your subtime's still ticking even while the game's down for the day.

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dang who's actually gonna read all that. this is such low bait.