Patch 6.5 patch notes

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Originally Posted by VictorSpoils

Quest Battles tab in PF finally got axed. Guess it was collecting too much dust. Still no idea what their intention was for it though.

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Back in the early days, Dhorme Chimera and the Hydra fight were not trials you could queue for. Instead you would have to trigger them in the overworld with a party member on the appropriate step. That category was there for these sort of battles, but SE turned them into DF trials shortly before 2.2, rendering the category obsolete for the next 9 years.

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Originally Posted by Doppelotter

The lack of MSQ qualifier on the alliance raid roulette concerns me. It's really easy to become over leveled just going through the game, and it's going to lock that roulette for a ton of players early.

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I'm assuming those are minimums, meaning you can't be a level 90 and wear iLvl 70 gear to get only CT. But I'm assuming for the roulette you can still get all of them if you outlevel/gear them.

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Originally Posted by Sove92

Back in the early days, Dhorme Chimera and the Hydra fight were not trials you could queue for. Instead you would have to trigger them in the overworld with a party member on the appropriate step. That category was there for these sort of battles, but SE turned them into DF trials shortly before 2.2, rendering the category obsolete for the next 9 years.

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This is also why the trials to this day are still called “a relic reborn. The…….”

Because they are actually repurposed quest battles from the quest “a relic reborn”

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Originally Posted by Supersnow845

I’m both happy and weirded out with the changes they made to the alliance roulette

Firstly the fact that they also added ilvls to all levels in a good change I’m happy they did

However the fact that they didn’t add a MSQ qualifier to it means that people are going to quickly outlevel the ability to queue for the roulette which is a strange choice

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Like not to be rude or anything... but why would you be doing roulettes on a job that has out leveled the MSQ? Swap to a lower level job or just focus the story.. thats a lot of experience lost if you cap a class an keep going

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Originally Posted by Baxcel

Like not to be rude or anything... but why would you be doing roulettes on a job that has out leveled the MSQ? Swap to a lower level job or just focus the story.. thats a lot of experience lost if you cap a class an keep going

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There is no reason to swap off your main during the MSQ till said main reaches the level cap (wherever you hit it, I’ve heard it being hit as early as HW but I don’t know) so the alliance roulette will locked for the main once it gets sufficiently high enough since it doesn’t seem like it checks MSQ progress

Depending on where you are in the MSQ you can have your main outlevel the alliance roulette and either not want to level sub jobs or have no access to a sub job above 50, this is to say nothing of encouraging sub jobs in this way still biases crystal tower which they were trying to avoid

It’s just a weird situation they could easily fix by making sure the alliance roulette checks MSQ progress so it doesn’t lock the roulette too early

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Originally Posted by Supersnow845

There is no reason to swap off your main during the MSQ till said main reaches the level cap (wherever you hit it, I’ve heard it being hit as early as HW but I don’t know) so the alliance roulette will locked for the main once it gets sufficiently high enough since it doesn’t seem like it checks MSQ progress

Depending on where you are in the MSQ you can have your main outlevel the alliance roulette and either not want to level sub jobs or have no access to a sub job above 50, this is to say nothing of encouraging sub jobs in this way still biases crystal tower which they were trying to avoid

It’s just a weird situation they could easily fix by making sure the alliance roulette checks MSQ progress so it doesn’t lock the roulette too early

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What are you talking about by locking the roulette? All they did was make it so a min ilvl was required depending on what level you are, so you can't strip and get lota and syrcus guaranteed.

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Originally Posted by Valkyrie_Lenneth

What are you talking about by locking the roulette? All they did was make it so a min ilvl was required depending on what level you are, so you can't strip and get lota and syrcus guaranteed.

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Your main job can hit levels far above where you can reasonably attain gear for said jobs while progressing the MSQ

If you are doing the HW MSQ and you are playing a BLM who’s at level 82 where are you going to get ilvl 430 gear except off the market board for likely more money than you probably have

It would be nice to see a new hairstyle for all the other races too...maybe there will be something they haven't shown yet. I do not mind the other races getting the missing ones they should have had them to begin with. I will pray Hilda's hair will pop up sometime.

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Originally Posted by Supersnow845

Your main job can hit levels far above where you can reasonably attain gear for said jobs while progressing the MSQ

If you are doing the HW MSQ and you are playing a BLM who’s at level 82 where are you going to get ilvl 430 gear except off the market board for likely more money than you probably have

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If you are doing the HW msq at level 82 something is very very wrong with your progression lol.


Make friends. It's a social game right? Friends are usually willing to help with gearing. Or people in novice network. Old gear is easy to make and takes little time.

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Originally Posted by Supersnow845

If anything the free trial is getting too generous

Some of us here actually pay to play this game

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We pay for accessing current endgame