Did they mix up the caster classes at launch or something?

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Originally Posted by Shinkuno

In the german version the conjurer is called druid... which makes alot more sense imo

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I mean... not really?

Druid (from Celtic draoidh - roughly "true/truth know-er") historically just referred to a(ny) magician/sorcerer/witch/warlock/etc.

It'd be a more vague term than even Conjurer if not for it DnD just happening to use Mage (wisdom / wise-person / sage / seer) as the generic word for a magic-user and then an almost identical term for magic user ("true knower") to instead be somehow restricted to nature-based magics.

A conjurer is one who calls (jur) forces/aspects together (con-) or does/forms something from their being put together, be that from between multiple worlds (the 'real' world and hell, for instance, wherein they'd be demon-summoners) or multiple layers of the same world (the manifest and the underlying, the material and the elemental, etc.).

Just because DnD decided, rather arbitrarily, to make Conjury refer only to the creation of new units, and then split the otherwise identical meaning Voke into offensive (Evocation) and self-buffing (Invocation) spells, doesn't mean all further references are beholden to that.

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Originally Posted by Shurrikhan

I mean... not really?

Druid (from Celtic draoidh - roughly "true/truth know-er") historically just referred to a(ny) magician/sorcerer/witch/warlock/etc.

It'd be a more vague term than even Conjurer if not for it DnD just happening to use Mage (wisdom / wise-person / sage / seer) as the generic word for a magic-user and then an almost identical term for magic user ("true knower") to instead be somehow restricted to nature-based magics.

A conjurer is one who calls (jur) forces/aspects together (con-) or does/forms something from their being put together, be that from between multiple worlds (the 'real' world and hell, for instance, wherein they'd be demon-summoners) or multiple layers of the same world (the manifest and the underlying, the material and the elemental, etc.).

Just because DnD decided, rather arbitrarily, to make Conjury refer only to the creation of new units, and then split the otherwise identical meaning Voke into offensive (Evocation) and self-buffing (Invocation) spells, doesn't mean all further references are beholden to that.

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When a german hears the term "Druid" they imagine this (french) guy, not some DnD stuff.

https://external-content.duckduckgo....5e0&ipo=images

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Originally Posted by Shurrikhan

I mean... not really?

Druid (from Celtic draoidh - roughly "true/truth know-er") historically just referred to a(ny) magician/sorcerer/witch/warlock/etc.

It'd be a more vague term than even Conjurer if not for it DnD just happening to use Mage (wisdom / wise-person / sage / seer) as the generic word for a magic-user and then an almost identical term for magic user ("true knower") to instead be somehow restricted to nature-based magics.

A conjurer is one who calls (jur) forces/aspects together (con-) or does/forms something from their being put together, be that from between multiple worlds (the 'real' world and hell, for instance, wherein they'd be demon-summoners) or multiple layers of the same world (the manifest and the underlying, the material and the elemental, etc.).

Just because DnD decided, rather arbitrarily, to make Conjury refer only to the creation of new units, and then split the otherwise identical meaning Voke into offensive (Evocation) and self-buffing (Invocation) spells, doesn't mean all further references are beholden to that.

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In the MMO space, Druid is usually seen as nature-bound caster, often a healer or with utility (everquest, wow for example)

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Originally Posted by Tint

When a german hears the term "Druid" they imagine this (french) guy, not some DnD stuff.

https://external-content.duckduckgo....5e0&ipo=images

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And yet the DnD take that was in turn used in EQ and WoW was exactly what Shinkuno was referring to, as if the German impression of a "Druid" were identical to a post-WoW English impression of the word.