Trying to get in ffxiv, not new to mmorpgs

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Originally Posted by Koros

ok then ignore 99% of the forums that hasn't done a single extreme or savage

go on the balance discord: https://www.thebalanceffxiv.com/

ask your questions there and get into raiding, the forums are literally pepegas and they will give you horrible advice

and don't use community finder to find statics (FF14 version of guilds) use discord

gilgamesh also used to be the raiding server back in HW, it won't be hard to find a social FC with raiders.

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This basically.

90% of forum dwellers have not even completed the normal raid tier, let alone an extreme or savage fight in their lifetime, but will still give you advice as if they had.

The Balance will be your best bet for information on specific jobs, openers and general rotations. They have dedicated sections for each job, where you can chat with other high end players and have any questions answered by people who are qualified to answer it.

Raiding is good fun, but just don't expect it to last much longer than 8-12 weeks before it becomes the regular chore.

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Originally Posted by DixieBellOCE

90% of forum dwellers have not even completed the normal raid tier, let alone an extreme or savage fight in their lifetime, but will still give you advice as if they had.

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I cant even complete MSQ, since its very boring for me xD

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Originally Posted by greywclf

Thank you. and I think I'm definitely looking for a social but also difficult content. I'll take a look into what you suggested and just get through the quests and such.

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Ultimately if you want to do any form of harder content, you need to do MSQ. Unfortunately it's all locked behind it so personally I think the first step is to ask if you are even interested in the story/the time you have to put in to get to the content you want to do. Of course you can just buy a story skip to Endwalker but you'll still need to do all of the Endwalker MSQ and post-patches to unlock all of the current content dungeons, trials, etc.

As far as FCs (guilds) and harder content go, you can find raiding FCs but the majority (in my opinion) raid with a static (group of 8 people formed via PF ads/with friends) or through the PF on their own. You can try to find a raiding FC but keep in mind that depending on when you join, groups may already be formed since the tier has been going on for a while now and you may have to wait for a slot to open up/for them to finish and offer clears to other members.

The game ends after MSQ.
There's some Mario party-esque content, and savage raiding, but you'll spend 95% of your time afking or playing other games.

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Originally Posted by Kakurady

There are ten years of backlog, and thanks to level syncing, they don't become obsolete when a new expansion releases.

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The absolutely do, though. Do old dungeons, trials like Ifrit or Innocence as MINE and see how trivial many of them are.

And while that's not the case for every single one, good luck finding 7 other players who want to prog through anything in the game that's older than two weeks.

This community is so afraid of the slightest bit of challenge they perceive having to press a button more as a genuine threat. They'd much rather repeat the same boring content unchallenged forever.

I was also a Mythic raider, along with M+ dungeons (20+).
Im not as opposed to the story now, the FFXIV story is pretty good if you take the time.

If you want to skip past the story quickly.
Boost a Job to level 80, (if you can afford it) - even if you decide you don't like it, you get a 100-150% XP boost for any other job lower level.
If you do like the job it makes getting through Story much faster to be over level.

I don't suggest a story skip, the game progressively teaches the basics of the game as you go up in content.
People that story skip, it is obvious when they get to raid level, not knowing fundamental indicators and/or mechanics.
Just Escape out of all the story dialog and cuts

End-game raids are Very fun. Even old raids synced are fun.
And you can get groups for them despite what some say.

FF raiding isn't about gear entirely like WoW, It is certainly nice to have the raid gear.
However, you can clear the entire raid set in crafted gear which can simply be bought from the market board.

There are no addons or filters like wow, rather than being added into groups, as long as you have the ilvl you simply fill into a party finder group posted.
I don't suggest a static early on while you learn FF raiding, you learn far more from using party finder.

FF raiding is more like M+ though, unlike Mythic raiding, there Is far more personal responsibility for getting through savage or ultamates.
But people are far more patient with people learning the fights as long as you are honest about your progression point.

FF raiding is far more fun, and much less stressful compared to wow raiding.
PF has gotten far more toxic with how many wow players now play FF,
Many think they are better players than they actually are, or just in a rush for no real reason.

The current tier will be current for quite some time, you have until next summer to clear it.
And there are always groups clearing current content, many of them fill with Experienced players that want to teach newer raiders.
(I have been playing FF for 3 years now)

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Originally Posted by deston07

PF has gotten far more toxic with how many wow players now play FF

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Lmao I have the opposite experience. Ever since ShB the playerbase has gotten so carebear.

Back in HW/SB we just kicked people after telling them they were being a nuisance. :) Can't do that anymore sadly.

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Originally Posted by Koros

Lmao I have the opposite experience. Ever since ShB the playerbase has gotten so carebear.

Back in HW/SB we just kicked people after telling them they were being a nuisance. :) Can't do that anymore sadly.

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Got to agree with this. If you PF'd savage in Stormblood, it was 3 wipes disband (if that) a lot of the time. Now if we wiped we will go for an hour or more in a lot of parties... which is a massive shift.

If you're interested in checking out the XIV raid scene, I'd recommend finishing Endwalker since all the optional raid questlines (and most optional things in general) unlock after a given expansion's MSQ completion. You'll also want to finish the normal mode series so it will unlock the Savage version, which is the raided version. I don't know how long that will take you or if you're looking for a specific raiding FC experience. But the tier didn't release too long ago so I still see fresh parties up in PF for all the floors. So if you don't want to deal with a specific hardcore raiding FC, you can try to PF it. Or find a static either in Discord or using a site like XIV Recruit. I wanted to get into Savage finally recently and found my static using that site.