You don't care about PvP because you constantly make issues out of non issues, and want to implement horrible changes. Yep lets introduce premade CC at the expense of... literally everyone else who queues. No thank you. Do you need your friends to play with you in literally *every* single game mode? Queue frontlines with them. End of story.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ransu
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05-25-2023, 01:10 PMArcheron
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05-25-2023, 04:21 PMKathleen_
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05-25-2023, 06:54 PMReinhardt_AzureheimIm sorry but you are overplaying how disasterous implementing a simple 2man queue option would be considering this was a default feature for the entirety of Feast Training's lifespan. And for the record, in Feast days a 2man was a way bigger advantage than it is now.Quote:
Originally Posted by Archeron
Premade in smallscale pvp is not a foreign concept to Training/Casual mode in FFXIV. Not only that, the complete lack of it was the harshest point of criticism towards the PvP overhaul. So right now it is forced single queue at the expense of... everybody else who really just wanted a friend activity in PvP that didn't want to submit to the DRK-pull-then-LB-nukes shitfest that is Frontlines. Rival Wings would be an alternative but SE being tone deaf as is refused to acknowledge the benefit of Daily Challenge: Rival Wings to exist as an addition to DC:FL.
There is also the thing that there is no guarantee that every single premade would be a complete game changer. Sure, if you pick two high-profile players they will probably mop the floor with people until they get better or find a way to deal with their strat, but with all due respect, a massive chunk of ppl who would love to duo queue are NOT on that level.
Also f*** off with that "end of story" gatekeeping BS as if you are any authority anyone should listen to, YIKES. -
05-25-2023, 09:42 PMMistress_Irika
I won't downplay the premade part. They do have a sizable advantage over other people. However, that doesn't mean that having a premade is an instant win. You can have a duo play together and still play like solo q players, and you won't be able to tell the difference.
Again, totally cool with keeping things completely solo. However, I don't exactly see how a pair ruins things...
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05-25-2023, 10:09 PMValence
Let me get this straight, is those concerns about imbalances (which can be fixed by always pairing premades equally in both teams), or concerns about something else i'm not seeing?
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05-26-2023, 12:53 AMPhyleciaThat's the part I'm failing to understand too. Like IF both teams have combinations of pre-made of 2s~3s they're starting off on the same footing. I personally would love to play with friends when they're on, but I'd queue that same queue solo too, I could still end up with two pairs of friends OR a 2~3 solo, like me, but a single duo pair on the random team of 5 I'd get assigned.Quote:
Originally Posted by Valence
However the chips fall, it REALLY changes nothing in terms of gameplay; on the level of fair vs unfair. I've had teams where people have AFK'd, or just ran all over the map randomly (literally zero time on objective and let us try / struggle as 4v5 and get stomped--once you're down a person unless you're TEAM is amazing it tends to snowball pretty quick.
My point is that there's already SO SO much out of your control in terms of the team match making and given you're, right now, 1/5 of that comp it boils down to you can only do your best, and even doing everything right; it's just not enough sometimes--going up against a stacked team is nothing new, the randomness that exists right now, today, allows for tons of stacked matches already.
But that's all, completely, missing the point anyway; like the point is letting people play with the friends. That would make the game way more fun.
Also I'm honestly the most hopeful that WHEN I have 3 or 4 other friends online, even though we're all in Discord, we might end up paired on opposite teams inna match, so we can raz each other and talk shit--it would be SO MUCH FUN! PLEASE SE, DO THIS ONE THING FOR US!!! -
05-26-2023, 01:10 AMTehmon
Change the reward system for anyone partying with friends, it's as simple as that.
Either you '' I just want to have fun with my friends :D '' and agree to completely omit or at least drastically minimize your match completion rewards, or then you queue up solo to farm the series rewards like the rest of us no friends having lowlife trash who just want to get through the series intact and without mental scarring. -
05-26-2023, 02:11 AMRansu
I just find it funny calling a duo group a premade. He's acting like we're asking to have a full squad...and it's casual mode at that. If you cared that much about balanced matches you'd be in ranked where there is some form of matchmaking.
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05-26-2023, 02:37 AMReinhardt_AzureheimGatekeeping rewards just because people want to play with friends? Really? What a stupid idea.Quote:
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05-26-2023, 02:53 AMTehmonOh, I thought you just wanted to HAVE FUN, not grind rewards more efficiently at the expense of another unorganized team having a shittier time for the most part.Quote:
Originally Posted by Reinhardt_Azureheim
A stick or a carrot, either way is fine.