Enforce ilvl-sync to Alliance Raid Roulettes to put a stop to the Crystal Tower Spam

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Smollett

Tying CT to MSQ was one of the worst decisions. Now ilvl cheesers have a legit excuse. "It's not me, it's just CT is mandatory".

---

That excuse would be more valid if there were people getting the achievements for their first time clear.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by CaptainLagbeard

That excuse would be more valid if there were people getting the achievements for their first time clear.

---

Not the only legitimate draw towards CT.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Saraide

Not the only legitimate draw towards CT.

---

You also only need one new person to force CT, so a single achievement get is enough of an indicator.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Iyrnthota

You also only need one new person to force CT, so a single achievement get is enough of an indicator.

---

Being on a job that is below level 60 is also enough to draw in up to 23 rouletteers into CT. This is what makes it so lopsided: one person is enough to force a CT raid but you need 24 to have access beyond for a chance of another araid set. You might also just land in a CT raid because someone queued for it directly for shb relic or WT. (I just wish I would get drawn there more instead of getting nier raids all the time)

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Iyrnthota

ilvl sync won't put a stop to CT spam, because the lack of it isn't the primary cause.

ilvl cheesing happens, but it's almost certainly not the primary reason we get CT all the time. I'd argue it's the least impactful reason.

---

This is reality that people simply refuse to accept.

If a single new player needs CT for the MSQ, it's going to pull 23 other people into the instance.

If a single player queues for a CT raid for ShB relic progression, it's going to pull 23 other people into the instance. Blame this one solely on CBU3 for putting that relic mat in CT instead of on the Alliance Roulette. Just another poorly thought out decision where the repercussions weren't properly thought out.

If a single player is below lvl 60 (the majority of free trial folks) and queues up for the alliance roulette, it's going to force 23 other people into CT.

But yeah, putting a lower max ilvl on the sync would go a decent ways to making the CT raids more like they were intended to be at the time of release when everyone had ilvl 60 or so instead of the 130 at the end of the expansion.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Deceptus

If a single new player needs CT for the MSQ, it's going to pull 23 other people into the instance.

If a single player queues for a CT raid for ShB relic progression, it's going to pull 23 other people into the instance. Blame this one solely on CBU3 for putting that relic mat in CT instead of on the Alliance Roulette. Just another poorly thought out decision where the repercussions weren't properly thought out.

If a single player is below lvl 60 (the majority of free trial folks) and queues up for the alliance roulette, it's going to force 23 other people into CT.

---

If a single player is ilvl cheesing, it's going to force 23 other people into CT. And if cheeser have more than one braincell they'll put on their normal gear right after the queuing, so you'll never recognize them.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Smollett

If a single player is ilvl cheesing, it's going to force 23 other people into CT. And if cheeser have more than one braincell they'll put on their normal gear right after the queuing, so you'll never recognize them.

---

That's right, you have no proof.

Some people will really bend over backwards to say that nothing would change if they stopped people from being able to ilevel cheese, as if the result is the only issue. People are abusing the way the ilevel system works to force certain duties in a roulette, which is supposed to be random. Regardless of whether it would affect what duties other people get, it should still be stopped. No noticeable difference doesn't mean they should still be allowed to do it.

tl;dr for cherry-pickers: Exploit should be fixed, even if it doesn't change what people get in roulettes. Stop saying it's not worth confronting.

Also, I would be much more accepting of getting CT if doing it didn't put me to sleep. If they reworked it or adjusted the ilevel, it wouldn't bother me.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Saraide

That's right, you have no proof.

---

Don't worry, most people are too stupid to put the right gear on after queuing, so they absolutely will get caught by anyone with eyes. I've reported many for doing it because it was extremely obvious.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Saraide

That's right, you have no proof.

---

Oh so it's my imagination and that never ever happens?

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Smollett

Oh so it's my imagination and that never ever happens?

---

This is possible. Even if you see someone requipping gear that doesnt mean that all 23 other players were rouletteers with every araid available. An ilvl cheeser can simply be put into the group of someone queueing on a lvl 50 character. In that case ilvl cheesers are actually pushing honest rouletteers towards other araids because they take up a CT slot you might have gotten instead.