Garuda Idea~ Make Rocks Curable

Well one thing that has changed is that steel cyclone doesn't kill Plumes in one hit any longer during the first phase, the ones in second phase have less hp.

Rain of Death
Doomspike
Whirlwind
Ring of Thorns

They all do. The fight was easier back before Steel Cyclone and Collusion were nerfed. It is more work for the bards now definitely, and I find it helpful to have a dragoon in the party. But if you can avoid a third jump and people take care of their adds the AF is nothing to worry about even if you leave one pillar unattended for 2/3 plume spawns due to timers on single hit AOE weaponskills.

ah you beat me to it zyph.

shouldent armorer or blacksmith be able to repair stone pillars in a realistic term?

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Originally Posted by MeowyWowie

No thanks. Please don't make the fight any easier.

However, I really hope defeating Garuda is required to complete relic weapons. Her time as prime content was short lived thanks to the overwhelming amount of players abusing the Astral Flow exploit.

Such a shame.. She is, hands down, the best encounter in the game.

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I can confirm to you that one of the requirements later in the Relic Quests requires you to kill Ifrit/Garuda at least with the unfinished relic weapon. My Source: Dat Mining :P

Tell your BRDs to gear up properly (or stop sucking), if they have not been 1shotting plumes with rain of death, it means they need better gear and no that doesn't mean Darklight gears.

Also bring a DRG, WAR isn't really optimal imo these days for Garuda.

Post patch, we always go with PLD DRG MNK BLM 2BRD 2WHM(or replace 1WHM with a BLM), never really have issue, if you decide to bring 2 WHM, assign 1 WHM to help on nuking Chirada when it pops in case you have terrible MNK that miss combos bc direction can get messy during that time.

Right, if you can't DPS Garuda and the plumes quick enough, there are issues with your BRDs and melees. I also haven't had much meaningful practice on her post-patch for reasons beyond my control.

I'll even say from experience that you can take down all the plumes each time they are summoned, but if the actual DPS on Garuda isn't big enough, she'll just take down the pillars herself with her Mistral Shriek and Song before she even decides to Aerial Blast... Or has this changed after the patch?


The biggest problems that plague parties pre-Aerial Blast seem to be overzealous DDs getting hit with attacks that are quite avoidable, those who are in charge of taking out plumes are not efficient at it, and DPS in general sucks because people are undergeared and/or 5/5 in AF. Some people need to realize that this isn't like Ifrit where you can auto-pilot it just because you got her behaviors memorized/figured out.

Because mending stone and mending flesh share the exact same mechanics...

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Originally Posted by Alerith

Because mending stone and mending flesh share the exact same mechanics...

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because white mages heal people with surgery and not magic

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Originally Posted by Starlord

That's just the problem I'm seeing with this, you have to have Awesome gear in order to DPS her down to where she doesn't have enough time to even kill many pillars.. not many people are Fortunate as people that spam CC all day to get Darklight gear or whatever :P.

To Meow: I Make sure everyone Saves TP for AOE moves and myself so that we can try to take out those plumes, but what gets us mainly is when she throws out 30 of them at once, from the video I saw them just take care of plumes on 1 side only ( the side you be hiding behind a rock), and we still wide up dying from AF.. I just don't know what to do. :/

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My LS only has AF and single/double melds, no Darklight, and we have been able to survive Astral flow consistently since we got the hang of it. The most important thing is that the DDs have to be Combo'ing constantly on Garuda because if she teleports 4+ times there is no way to survive.

Our breakthrough was to have DD start their AOE combos on Garuda once she starts her feather summoning animation. When DDs get to the AOE part of their combo they run out, AOE feathers, then run back to Garuda.

Darklight gear makes it easier but it is not required at all. Good tactics and efficient use of WS's and combos is what will make or break this fight.