Enough with this Armor Silhouette! Enough!

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Originally Posted by Hycinthus

I did notice that. Whenever I’m looking for a separare breastplate, it’s usually an older ARR armors that’s available. I truly wondered who or what made SE dug deep into this Tent shape battle skirt style. I have never really seen this shape before in any other games at all. I think their designers just need more inspiration. I don’t think it’s a resource issue either - just remove the bottom part of the tent, and let the top breastplate separate, then that will let players mix and match even better.

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I feel the designers are somehow afraid of changing? It is weird, that's for sure.

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Originally Posted by Hycinthus

I don’t think it’s a resource issue either - just remove the bottom part of the tent, and let the top breastplate separate, then that will let players mix and match even better.

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I think the thing is, you can't get exactly the same effect from a legwear skirt versus one attached to the top. Legwear has to be shaped so it will never clip through a top, so the skirts are narrower and can look a bit unnatural when at rest.

Personally I am generally happy with skirts attached the top, because then I can wear pants underneath it. When they just make skirts separate, they tend to have bare legs underneath and you can't do anything to change it.

I do see that they use the style a lot, though. And I agree with the person who said we should get the Lunar Envoy skirt-pants for more roles.

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Originally Posted by DiaDeem

Main thing I'd like is for Casters/Healers, Striking/Maiming, Aiming/Scouting to get different looking sets that are not just recolors of each other.

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With the way the system is role-restricted, there's no benefit from having more different outfits. Either way you get one more outfit for your job, and insisting on unique ones for every job would double their workload. I'd rather get three shared gearsets and three glamour outfits than seven unique gearsets.

It's the "game's specifications" fault.

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iirc I think it has to do with rigging or something, every model has the same bones for the big skirts even if that gear doesn't have a skirt. So they mostly just make stuff that fits the mold.

I will gladly take clipping if it means new designs.

As a tank I would gladly take more armors like the Allagan (t5) or Edengrace (e4s) any day. Though I think the OP forgot to mention that with the introduction of vieras and hrothgar, the amount of "helm" gear has decreased. I'm noticing more circlets, hairpins or visors. So in addition to tents you have a decreasing amount of headgear. Though this only strikes me personally as when I play tank I want a helm to protect me and not just a hairpin that looks like an accessory.

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Originally Posted by Iscah

there's no benefit from having more different outfits

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Variety.
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Originally Posted by Fawkes

It's the "game's specifications" fault.

iirc I think it has to do with rigging or something, every model has the same bones for the big skirts even if that gear doesn't have a skirt. So they mostly just make stuff that fits the mold.

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Hmm I’m not an expert so this is difficult to understand. What game specs make it a eequirement it had to be A-line shape? It’s soo weird.

But in the back of my head, I have always felt, suspiciously, it’s not a designer issue, that again, as always, it’s a product limitation spaghetti code issue. I just didn’t wanna acknowledge it. Because if it is really product limitation issue then it’s harder to fix.

But they have some other styles in game already so I don’t think this can be used as an excuse.

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Originally Posted by Hycinthus

Hmm I’m not an expert so this is difficult to understand. What game specs make it a eequirement it had to be A-line shape? It’s soo weird.

But in the back of my head, I have always felt, suspiciously, it’s not a designer issue, that again, as always, it’s a product limitation spaghetti code issue. I just didn’t wanna acknowledge it. Because if it is really product limitation issue then it’s harder to fix.

But they have some other styles in game already so I don’t think this can be used as an excuse.

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It’s nonesense and not a requirement but a design decision.

Odin’s armor set for disciples of war has no skirt and works perfectly fine, same as many chestpieces (look at the low level ones or even Paglth’an fending and maiming armor chestpieces).

There was never a requirement. It’s just for some obscure decision, there’s way too many of them skirts.

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Originally Posted by DiaDeem

Variety.

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But it's variety you can't use, because other classes can't equip it.

And as I said, if they make more glamour sets instead – especially if they put it into more fantasy gear and not the modern outfits they're doing all too often for my liking – then you still are getting variety and you can make use of it on more classes at a time.

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Originally Posted by Iscah

But it's variety you can't use, because other classes can't equip it.

And as I said, if they make more glamour sets instead – especially if they put it into more fantasy gear and not the modern outfits they're doing all too often for my liking – then you still are getting variety and you can make use of it on more classes at a time.

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Variety is not a 1 solution thing of course. I also support them unlocking glamour from different classes. All of these work in conjunction to bring us the variety we need, as we know, glamour is the true end game for loyal playerbase.