Full Notes Patch 6.3

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Originally Posted by HollowedDoll

Sure glad they decided to introduce more button bloat for tanks.

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Originally Posted by Vahlnir

I think the only thing that really confuses me is adding a new ability for tanks to disable our tank stance. We could just use it, and then tap it to turn it off before. Simple and effective. Maybe there's something I'm missing here, but that seems...off, and very unnecessary.

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Originally Posted by Fawkes

I would assume it's just a cosmetic change and the button auto-swaps depending on if you have stance on or not. Basically just another way to see that you forgot to turn stance on.

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If the stance buttons are toggles, good UI/UX practice would be for the buttons to change color or shape when active so that you can tell by looking at them and nothing else whether pressing them will turn something on or off. It would be a good thing if this is how they handled it.

However, we have some conflicting signals here. The updated Job Guides don't show "This button cannot be assigned to a hotbar." so maybe they are extra buttons. It would be better if they are still the same buttons, just color changing to indicate state.

with how stance buffs work probably still works the same
just if you want that buff off right away you push it

I knew they would nerf nin to the point monk and drg would become the only melees worth playing in pvp, again.

I don't know why they nerf MNK's Riddle of Earth into 2 mins cooldown that only gives 10s damage reduction and self regen?

Old 3 stacks RoE was way better than this...

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Originally Posted by Knot_D

I don't know why they nerf MNK's Riddle of Earth into 2 mins cooldown that only gives 10s damage reduction and self regen?

Old 3 stacks RoE was way better than this...

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Now we need to dig up those topics about what melee dps has the best survivability.

Yeah i knew it from the start, pvp ninja was too good, and it would just slowly get nerfed until it tips over into the trash. They need to fully rework it, not keep nerfing it

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Originally Posted by Vahlnir

I think the only thing that really confuses me is adding a new ability for tanks to disable our tank stance. We could just use it, and then tap it to turn it off before. Simple and effective. Maybe there's something I'm missing here, but that seems...off, and very unnecessary.

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This change is probably for level syncing content like dungeons and fates. It’s so annoying it gets turned off when you level sync. The way it is going to be now makes it so raids will be the only time you need to turn it off if you are the OT. I think it’s a great change.

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Originally Posted by Knot_D

I don't know why they nerf MNK's Riddle of Earth into 2 mins cooldown that only gives 10s damage reduction and self regen?

Old 3 stacks RoE was way better than this...

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Old RoE is a penalizing ability, which many players - myself included grow sick of. The old RoF would reduce the amount mitigated once you start using weaponskills, which is absolutely horrendous, especially in fights where damage is coming out consistently like Barb EX. You really did not need the three stacks, especially when taking this penalty into account.

What this does is gives MNKs even more sustainability than they already had before. RoW+Bloodbath could already be used for essentially what was a pretty powerful regen effect, and now they have two, plus a consistent 20% mitigation.

To me about the tank stances is that they might be thinking about bringing stance dancing back as Atonement if you look at the job guide has a thing stating that it can only be used while under Iron Will. I'm so glad you can use Curing Waltz and Shield Samba while doing your steps. Also glad Bard in PVP won't be missing out on the damage increase from their LB.

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Originally Posted by Vahlnir

I think the only thing that really confuses me is adding a new ability for tanks to disable our tank stance. We could just use it, and then tap it to turn it off before. Simple and effective. Maybe there's something I'm missing here, but that seems...off, and very unnecessary.

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It just makes for smoother weaving. Disabling a buff effect normally has a slight delay attached. It's one of the reasons why the old Defiance/Deliverance swaps were so smooth, because you never disabled a buff on WAR, you only activated them. If this addresses what I think it does, it's a QoL change. Hopefully they had the sense to make the two effects share a button, though.