Variant & Criterion Dungeons

Just finished my first two runs of the dungeon and I have to say I'm enjoying it so far, though the bosses are a rather drawn-out affair for something you're supposed to run multiple times.

Still, I'm intrigued by the idea of piecing a mystery together over multiple runs, and it's certainly the first time I've had reason to consult my lorebook to solve a dungeon puzzle! (I'm sure there was an in-game clue to look for as well, and/or I'm going to take all the paths sooner or later, but whatever. I have the nerdy solution route and I'm not afraid to use it!)

And really, I've missed the feeling of fighting bosses alone and figuring out how to dodge things. I know it's not that different to some other solo content here, but it feels different somehow. Puts me more in the mind of playing Zelda or something.

The surrounding setup seems a bit convoluted though – it seems like we could have just gone straight to visit Nanamo in her chambers instead of fussing about with assistants and disguises and having secret conversations in the middle of the street.

And rewards are totally underwhelming, especially if you don't like the one "noir" coat and hat and don't want yet another pair of short plain gloves, plain belted trousers and lace-up shoes. It's really getting excessive at the moment with those, and it looks like we're about to get another lot for All Saints' Wake on top of this, the Enforcer set half-a-patch ago and the Appointed set before that. And the Frontier and Varsity men's outfits not long before. Glamour gear is supposed to be about giving us variety.

The decoration style seen in the Sil'dihn palace ruins looks lovely, and it feels like a huge missed opportunity to not give us something themed after that. Or at absolute least sell some other gear repeated from elsewhere and not just the one glamour set.

(There's also an earring and the emote, but I can't ever see earrings in combination with my character's hairstyle, and haven't tried the emote yet. Still very limited excitement compared to new glamour or better access to other ones.)

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Originally Posted by SylvAlternate

I hate how the puzzles can be f'ed up by someone else, three times now I've wasted like 20 minutes going through the left path because I need entry no.1 but DF people keep failing the puzzle for the teleporter even after I specifically ask them to not touch the sacks

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Run it solo. It's pretty straightforward – Rampart for shield and Cure for regen will get you through. Might be slower per run (I haven't compared, plus had learning curve) but it's going to save you time overall.

My only complaint is that they need to make the color coded mechs a little more distinctive. I can't really sus out which one is yellow and which one is green, even after applying a few colorblind filters that don't seem to work. I'm sure I'll get over it because this always happens for me but it's not pleasant to hold others back on prog because I can't interpret the chaos correctly.

Criterion is great. I love it. most fun i've had in a long time

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Originally Posted by Ishe-P

My only complaint is that they need to make the color coded mechs a little more distinctive. I can't really sus out which one is yellow and which one is green, even after applying a few colorblind filters that don't seem to work. I'm sure I'll get over it because this always happens for me but it's not pleasant to hold others back on prog because I can't interpret the chaos correctly.

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Don't reshade has a colorblindness filter?

Variant is a lot of fun. Unsurprisingly, I ran into someone on their 12th run while I was just doing my second. :p

I did just one more after that for the new emote. I'll work on the rest eventually.

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Originally Posted by AmpelioB

Don't reshade has a colorblindness filter?

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There are many types of colorblindness and some people have multiple so a simple filter doesn't always work. That's why there's usually a combination of shapes plus color for markers.

I just wanna drop in and say these seems kinda cool. There's some not obvious stuff you can find, a little bit of mystery and challenge. I was complaining for a few years that they never try anything different; well this is different so I got to give them props for making dungeons more interesting. I like this.

I enjoyed the variant dungeon except for that the currency is an item in your inventory and not in the currency tab!! >8U

I enjoyed the normal version so far and with the skills its fairly quick even alone. I mean yeah ofc its faster with 4 players but its reasonable doing it alone as well. Also left side of the doors in a garden has a massive screen effect which i love so much.. (not gonna go into detail more ;) )

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Originally Posted by Iscah

rewards are totally underwhelming, especially if you don't like the one "noir" coat and hat and don't want yet another pair of short plain gloves, plain belted trousers and lace-up shoes. It's really getting excessive at the moment with those, and it looks like we're about to get another lot for All Saints' Wake on top of this, the Enforcer set half-a-patch ago and the Appointed set before that. And the Frontier and Varsity men's outfits not long before. Glamour gear is supposed to be about giving us variety.

The decoration style seen in the Sil'dihn palace ruins looks lovely, and it feels like a huge missed opportunity to not give us something themed after that. Or at absolute least sell some other gear repeated from elsewhere and not just the one glamour set.

(There's also an earring and the emote, but I can't ever see earrings in combination with my character's hairstyle, and haven't tried the emote yet. Still very limited excitement compared to new glamour or better access to other ones.)

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Well said...