should have shown the trailer...

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Originally Posted by Amherst

Gotta agree, SE is probably regretting that decision now. There were a few cool things about E3 this year (Watch Dogs) but man, the big three...Sony wasn't much and the other two were abysmal. A trailer for 2.0 could have built up a ton of hype.

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I don't think they are, and honestly it would have garnered *too* much hype. You don't want your game to get overhyped, because that can be every bit as damaging as not getting enough hype. Just look at D3, its being thrashed by gamers right now because it got overhyped. Every game has bad launches, and every game will have mistakes. An overhyped fanbase will be much much much less forgiving of those than a moderate fanbase. I still say it was a good move on SE's part.

Nobody's really questioning if those things sell. It's more of a matter of knowing those things will sell regardless. Let's be honest here, how many people watching E3 are the kinds of gamers that would immediately run out and buy Dance Central? Maybe at one point, yeah, for a social thing, but I doubt the presentation would really affect that choice in any manner at all.

A lot of people thought E3 this year was lacking. Lacking in games, lacking in surprises, and more specifically lacking in things that actually appeal to their interest instead of a mass market that seems largely irrelevant to showings at a convention like that. Showing 2.0 in some form could have generated a ton of hype for the game, especially among the potential future PS3 players who may not be fully aware of the launch 1.0 had. Since there was so little else, it really had a chance to shine.

But, oh well. I doubt any of us predicted it'd go like it this year. Live and learn.

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Originally Posted by Lux_Rayna

I don't think they are, and honestly it would have garnered *too* much hype. You don't want your game to get overhyped, because that can be every bit as damaging as not getting enough hype. Just look at D3, its being thrashed by gamers right now because it got overhyped. Every game has bad launches, and every game will have mistakes. An overhyped fanbase will be much much much less forgiving of those than a moderate fanbase. I still say it was a good move on SE's part.

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Diablo 3 was anticipated and hyped for ten years. It was bound to happen. 2.0 launches in...what, three months for PC? Still not a lot of knowledge about the game aside from a very bad initial reputation. I think they could've used it.

I'm not really trying to argue against your point about overhyping something, but those two situations don't really seem similar at all.

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Originally Posted by Amherst

Diablo 3 was anticipated and hyped for ten years. It was bound to happen. 2.0 launches in...what, three months for PC? Still not a lot of knowledge about the game aside from a very bad initial reputation. I think they could've used it.

I'm not really trying to argue against your point about overhyping something, but those two situations don't really seem similar at all.

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Well they're not similar, I was just noting that the danger is still there. Do you watch basketball by chance? In the course of about mmmm 2 weeks the Spurs went from being invincible and the best team in basketball to "falling apart" and "coming to the end of their era". In 2 weeks. You'd be shocked at how fast the switch could flip. Now who knows mayyyybe I'm blowing it out of proportion a bit. But if we're talking about an E3 starved for anything newsworthy, then they catch a wtftrailer that was supposed to be a sideshow...mainstream media/gaming press coverage will blow it up for lack of anything else to blow up. The media is reallyyyyyy good at overhyping shit in very small amounts of time. Just imagine the media pressure *after* E3 if they had that trailer up. They'd be pressed for new info by every major gaming outlet up until 2.0 release. And given that they are under enough pressure already, getting the media involved in a massive hypefest that wasn't supposed to happen just sounds like trouble.

I could be blowing it up abit, but I figure not showing the trailer will harm them less than showing the trailer and having it blow up before its ready to blow up ya know?

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Originally Posted by Webster

Watch Dogs looked awesome...a little too awesome. I dont think it will be on this generation of consoles. Just a guess tho.

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PC, Xbox 360, PS3, confirmed.

I think the screenshots are amazing, but there is something that bothers me that I haven't seen anyone else mention yet from the 28th Letter from the Producer:

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Originally Posted by YoshiP

The devs, Visual Works, Sound, PR—everyone did their part and the trailer itself was completed and ready for release at E3. But during our most recent global PR planning meeting, we came to the conclusion that the most effective way to introduce version 2.0 to the world would be with a flood of new material rather than just a trickle.

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Then why did you come to E3 with just trickles of information? Seems to be exactly what they said they wouldn't do.

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Originally Posted by UmJammerSully

Then why did you come to E3 with just trickles of information? Seems to be exactly what they said they wouldn't do.

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I was kind of wondering the same thing. The only thing I can come up with is that Yoshida had have something to talk about in the booked invterviews. This was just something they mailed out to the media they were doing interviews with. Maybe to give the outlets a basis to form questions for the interviews. I'm not sure we the players were the target of these screens though I'm sure they knew we would <3 them.

Just a bit ago, they let a bunch of gaming site members into a private showing of in game play. I imagine many were reviewers who previously wrote off XIV and are getting a first hand look at the new stuff to see just how much it has changed. We know of at least one who is going to do a write up tonight covering the preview.