Mount Farming and the 99 Totem Issue

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Originally Posted by Equitable_Remedy

You think that rarity doesn't drive people to get certain mounts/glams/drops/etc? I - disagree.

Being able to sit in Limsa/Orgrimmar/Qeynos/etc. with that mount that other people don't have if definitely part of the value of getting the mount in the first place.

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You’re one of the players I’m referring to that no-life it and are now gatekeeping. I can’t take any opinion you have seriously. You offer little to no understanding of the discussion.

Heck I’ll freely admit the system could be better, this is why i try to stay an expansion behind on mount farming. I dont want the 99 grind again and my luck is that bad that i would have to do 99 for all 3 current mounts.

But thats no solution, so yes something could be done to look at how ex mounts are awarded

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Originally Posted by Moonfish

Explain this. Who, in the history of the universe, has ever said that because Billy Bob won’t do a fight 99 times makes their own 99 fights more valuable?

Edit - and who has ever said they ENJOY doing the same fight 99 times? Because I have literally never encountered that person. The people doing the fights for the totem trade in have never said they’re glad they didn’t win the mount before they got 99 totems.

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Maybe not 99 times, but I do actually enjoy a number of the fights, especially at level. I got lucky on Zodiark and picked it up on my 15th run. I kept going for a few more after winning and did some more later on. I got my 100 from Endsinger and still pop in now and again. I'll do these on different jobs to keep things interesting.

I would be up for a solution of 7 patches after an EX, the totem requirement drops to 50 for buying the mount

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Originally Posted by WillIrishclover

I would be up for a solution of 7 patches after an EX, the totem requirement drops to 50 for buying the mount

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What is your justification for it being 99 until then?

Lets be honest after clearing the fight 20 times, chances are you're already good at it. Any more than that is just brainless repetitive task, its not even fun anymore. I dont like it personally. My suggestion is to make it so that if the mount drop (still a low chance), every player that clicks the chest automatically gets it in their inventory, it works the same as books in savage raids.

That way the content will actually become more fun for everyone. No more salt for losing rolls and the drop chance is still low enough that you have to do it multiple times. But it wont be so bad as collecting 99 totems and once it drops everybody is happy.

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Originally Posted by Lieri

Lets be honest after clearing the fight 20 times, chances are you're already good at it. Any more than that is just brainless repetitive task, its not even fun anymore. I dont like it personally. My suggestion is to make it so that if the mount drop (still a low chance), every player that clicks the chest automatically gets it in their inventory, it works the same as books in savage raids.

That way the content will actually become more fun for everyone. No more salt for losing rolls and the drop chance is still low enough that you have to do it multiple times. But it wont be so bad as collecting 99 totems and once it drops everybody is happy.

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The issue with that idea is that someone, somewhere will still go hundreds of runs and never have their mount drop. Yes, players can be that unlucky. The 99 totem system prevents that from happening.

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Originally Posted by Lieri

Lets be honest after clearing the fight 20 times, chances are you're already good at it. Any more than that is just brainless repetitive task, its not even fun anymore. I dont like it personally. My suggestion is to make it so that if the mount drop (still a low chance), every player that clicks the chest automatically gets it in their inventory, it works the same as books in savage raids.

That way the content will actually become more fun for everyone. No more salt for losing rolls and the drop chance is still low enough that you have to do it multiple times. But it wont be so bad as collecting 99 totems and once it drops everybody is happy.

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If we're gonna compare to savage raids, let's not forget there's a mount there as well, with no alternate method for acquiring it.

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Originally Posted by chaotix69

Most can infer just based on the title what this is going to be about, but after spending hours and hours with nothing to show for it, I needed to vent. The current system of acquiring 99 totems to purchase a mount from any of the EX trials is absolutely ridiculous and a clear indicator from SE that they do not care about your personal time. I am currently in the endgame right now and like every patch, once you complete the raids there is nothing to do except go back and try to acquire the things you missed in previous expansions, mounts being one of them.

Now I am fine with the PF and I understand that obtaining a mount from any of these EX trials is intended to be a rare reward. However, when you have ran it 50, 60, 70 times and continue to walk away empty handed while others get lucky enough to obtain it their first try, it diminishes the incentive to even try. What makes it worse, is that if you're someone who has consistent bad luck, then your only option is to do the same trial 99 times.... or 50 times for those that award 2x totems. This is ridiculous and whats worse is that it is a practice that is defended. Why does the totem count need to be 99? Why not 50? Why not something reasonable?

What makes it worse is that many players defend it, either because they acquired the mount early on, slogged through the trial 99 times and feel everyone else should suffer like they did, or just generally enjoy wasting away countless hours of their life on one instance. The gatekeeping by this game's community needs to stop. Not even having a FC fixed the issue because no one wants to help out with anything, or most FCs are filled with player bases that are still in the leveling process or just craft non-stop. (from my experience at least).

Make the damn totem requirement 50. At least then it becomes more bearable. Who cares if more people end up with the mount. Your time should be rewarded, not taken advantage of, cause you can never get it back.

tldr; mount drop rates suck! 99x totem requirement suck! Make it 50.

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I know that I can have an odd way of looking at things sometimes, but I basically go into an EX trial with the mindset that the mount is more of an achievement reward for defeating the boss 99 times. That doesn't stop me from rolling for the mount if it drops. I do have my own personal rule that I never roll for the mount until after I have learned the fight, which usually takes me about 10 runs or so to really get down all the mechs.

What I can say is don't grind those totems. If you're already at 50+ or something like that, it might be time to consider taking a step back. Squeeze in a run here and there if you see a promising PF, but start doing other things for awhile, or abandon it completely and just come back to it another time. You could also go back to doing the fight with those needing to clear it to help them out. Who know, perhaps RNG will reward your service to help others get their clears.

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Originally Posted by chaotix69

You’re one of the players I’m referring to that no-life it and are now gatekeeping.

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With respect, you either didn't read my post carefully enough or "no-life" and "gatekeeping" don't mean what you think they mean.

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Originally Posted by Equitable_Remedy

I don't farm mounts. Why, you ask? Because I don't find it particularly fun, and it isn't worth my time.

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Originally Posted by Equitable_Remedy

I'm not saying that the number should be 99 or 50 or 25

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