Why not a warning?

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Originally Posted by MistakeNot

A 10-day ban is a warning. A warning that next time you break the rules it could be a perma-ban.

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This is not true. A ban is a punishment not a warning.

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Originally Posted by Xiu_Ye

This is not true. A ban is a punishment not a warning.

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a perman ban is a punishment, a 10-day ban is a warning.

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Originally Posted by RayneBoemir

They knew what they were getting into. To be sure they cannot give a warning and detect they are not using addons. This means giving a warning such as remove your addons or you will be suspended doesn’t work.

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This is on its face not true. If you get pulled into gaol and then told why, and you continue the behavior then you getting a ban is not something anyone can complain about. Thats not the case here and there is no evidence to think people would ignore a warning like that.

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Originally Posted by Atelier-Bagur

a perman ban is a punishment, a 10-day ban is a warning.

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You don't understand, I cut his finger off as a warning for stealing. He didn't die, I don't know why he's not taking his warning in stride. :^)

Another of these "They shouldn't punish people for breaking the rules because they didn't do it before" threads.

Maybe they're getting tired of just telling ppl not to do it because they've proven they're going to do it until there are consequences for doing it?

"But they didn't do it before" isn't relevant unless you own a time machine.

A cop isn't going stop giving you a speeding ticket if you tell them you didn't get a ticket all the other times you broke the speed limit.

Your boss isn't going to stop firing you for breaking policy just because you told them you didn't get fired all the other times you did it.

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Originally Posted by RitsukoSonoda

Another of these "They shouldn't punish people for breaking the rules because they didn't do it before" threads.

Maybe they're getting tired of just telling ppl not to do it because they've proven they're going to do it until there are consequences for doing it?

"But they didn't do it before" isn't relevant unless you own a time machine.

A cop isn't going stop giving you a speeding ticket if you tell them you didn't get a ticket all the other times you broke the speed limit.

Your boss isn't going to stop firing you for breaking policy just because you told them you didn't get fired all the other times you did it.

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This is actually an amazing example. Right now you can drive ~5 miles over the speed limit and you will never get pulled over. If they started doing that tomorrow and started giving you fines for it. People would be outraged and justly so, by not enforcing it they implicitly endorsed the practice of doing so. Now its actually worse in SE's case as theyve said multiple times to basically not harass anyone and theyll look the otherway which they observably have done.

You're also mistaking my point at all. My point is just the level of punishment is wrong.

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Originally Posted by Atelier-Bagur

I did and what Im saying basically applies to what you posted. If you knew what you are doing is risky, why pull a surprise pikachu face when you get caught?

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These things only apply to streamers.
Players in game right now are using hacks to break PVP and they won't be banned because they don't stream.
This ONLY harms the streamers

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Originally Posted by Xiu_Ye

Do people really think a 10 day ban after years of calling things grey areas and 'just don't harass people' is an appropriate response?

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No, I don't think it's appropriate. It should have been a permanent ban.

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Originally Posted by Reimmi

These things only apply to streamers.
Players in game right now are using hacks to break PVP and they won't be banned because they don't stream.
This ONLY harms the streamers

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Pretty much yeah, I'm just arguing against people who play stupid games to win stupid prizes. If you're being so complacent that you feel like streaming publicly of a game that clearly shows you using third party tools, then WHOOPS you just made whoever was the GM watching at the time their job easier.

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Originally Posted by Xiu_Ye

This is not true. A ban is a punishment not a warning.

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Unfortunately, in this game, bans are pretty much the equivalent to warnings. Even a "warning" leaves you open to any other minor "offense" leading to a strike. A ban is a full on strike, two more and you are gone, permanently.