Suggestion for slower the guildleve reset time, and prize better rewards.

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Originally Posted by Asaren

@ArtworkGnome, your post above just mention that you could finish them in 6 hours and then have 30 hours of waiting... that mean you are playing this game for 24/7. Thus, leve is not for you, you should just go do something else like free roaming or rare hunting. Leve is made for casual players, and SE state this in so many interview!

note: altho I don't really believe of how you could finsih 8+8 leves in 6 hours anyway, even hardcore players I know always took around 8-10 hours depend on how long they need to walk/wait, chat, and abort between leves.

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Im not timing myself or on 24/7 but yes i think it should be a 24hr cool down it really doesnt take a hell of a long time to finish leves and i def. dont need a day and half. why not a 24hr reset? because you dont play enough to get back on the next day?? like i said.. tough luck

Edit: ive been in leve parties with 3 or 4 people with 8 leves and finished all of them (ignoring behests) in way less than 8 hrs. leves generally only take 10-15 min grouped.
4 ppl x 8 leves= 32 / 1/4 hr= 8 hrs. at 15 min a leve. some take far less and if you dont wanna do 32 then dont go do you damn crafting leves who cares. i would like the freedom of being able to do leves everyday and leveling the way i want... I.E removing fatigue. the casual players can play "Casually" just because they dont want to play every day doesnt mean the rest of the playerbase should suffer? agreed?

I feel the complete opposite, I manage to do my 8 leves (battle leves) easily, the majority of the time sink is running either from city to city or from aetheryte to aethryte. (so chocobo's, can I have it ?)

Crafting leves shouldn't be calculated into this as some people don't want to craft, so where as someone who does all 16 leves may find it hard to do them in 36 hours (I can't imagine how mind you) someone who chooses not to do crafting leves would end up with time where they are doing nothing and become very bored.

I suggest making leves reset 36 (or maybe 24) hours from the time they are completed/failed, which would mean individual reset times per leve, make it so that players can log in and complete leves anytime they like with no pressure to complete them before they run out of time.

I would also suggest maybe increasing the amount of leves a player can take to 10 or 12, perhaps reduce the amount of sp gain though, we need more to do in this game, once leves are exhausted there is very little to do, especially if you don't like grinding.

Well, before when the party size could be 15 players and you still got awesome sp, I agreed that 36hrs was a good amount of time til next reset. Back then you could be out there for hours doing guildleves, and maybe even join a different group after because people didnt really care if you had leves or not (at least on my server).
Now, with the limit shifted to 8 people, and 4 people for small groups. the amount of time you spend doing guildleves is greatly reduced. at most 2 hours now with a small group and you are done with guildleves. 3-4 hours with 8 people. That leaves us with a 32 or so hour wait.
Even local leves are done much faster so that 36 hours is too long of a wait, especially since local leves don't really give higher SP now.

Given these changes, I think the Leve reset time should be shifted down to a normal 24 hours.
Or allow us to take more guildleves and local leves at once, at least 12 per reset, and increasing the amout of leves offered in each camp to 4. also splitting Fieldcraft leves into their own section so that we may take those along with the 12 battlecraft leves or 8 on a 24hr reset.

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Originally Posted by Reika

Given these changes, I think the Leve reset time should be shifted down to a normal 24 hours.
Or allow us to take more guildleves and local leves at once, at least 12 per reset, and increasing the amout of leves offered in each camp to 4. also splitting Fieldcraft leves into their own section so that we may take those along with the 12 battlecraft leves or 8 on a 24hr reset.

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/agreed who could it hurt? the "casual" player? there are leves available for them every day.. even if they started awhile ago and arnt 50 people already beat them to 50... theyre gonna level just as slow no matter what. an the feildcraft i agree with there is no point in lvling a feild craft with leves when i could use those leves for say Conj.

yeah, so the casual want it to reset slower, but hardcore like it reset this rate?

If SE really mind their own word, then they need to choose casual because it is who they make leve for. Hardcore can just hunt raptor easily for SP anyway, they have lots of time to sink.

Regional Leve is so boring, and I think the fact that people spam them every reset and do nothing else is killing this game. I m talking about hardcore here, most of my LS got a lot of R50s, and they just log in -> regional leve-> craft leve-> log off -> rant about game system on forum like many around this forum. This suck.

Does SE want everybody to quickly become all-R50 or something?

Couldn't you guys agree that leve are crazy stupid SP?

for short,
It dis-motivate people to do free roaming and really need to be slower reset or just get nerfed.
-but "slower reset" method will help casual, while "nerfed SP" method only hurts both. so it is better to choose "Slower reset" method.

The current SP rates are fine IF they go back to to the original reset timers. And I say this as someone who only plays on average about an hour or two per night.

Some of you are forgeting that for us to go out and kill free roaming monsters there has to be a good enough reason to do so, as it stands the current SP system sucks and thats why people prefer doing guildleves. (path of least resistance and all that BS)

I can easily understand people loggin in only to do their leves and then logging off and thats because there is no other content at the moment, grinding monsters is a last resort for most people and it gets extremely tedious after a while.

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Originally Posted by Alise

yeah, so the casual want it to reset slower, but hardcore like it reset this rate?

If SE really mind their own word, then they need to choose casual because it is who they make leve for. Hardcore can just hunt raptor easily for SP anyway, they have lots of time to sink.

Regional Leve is so boring, and I think the fact that people spam them every reset and do nothing else is killing this game. I m talking about hardcore here, most of my LS got a lot of R50s, and they just log in -> regional leve-> craft leve-> log off -> rant about game system on forum like many around this forum. This suck.

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I doubt the "hardcore" players want to just grind monsters all day... thats pretty dry. its not just about how much time the player has available its what they want to do with that time. I personally do not want to grind monsters to level thats pretty gay. Hense the shorter leve timer

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Originally Posted by ArtworkGnome

I doubt the "hardcore" players want to just grind monsters all day... thats pretty dry. its not just about how much time the player has available its what they want to do with that time. I personally do not want to grind monsters to level thats pretty gay. Hense the shorter leve timer

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You are saying that players don't want to grind mobs all day, and yet you are saying to reduce the leve timer, which would mean spamming leves everyday.. I don't see the difference..(except that leves give better sp).. Kill mobs .. rinse and repeat.. Boring.


Funny that some people want the leve timer to be lengthened and some want it shorter.. If they do end up changing it, there will be unhappy people either way.