Dev Harassment is concerning

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Originally Posted by Insertusernamehere

I am not sure average age of player base but most of us have RL job probably and we will often get unhappy, frustrated, angry costumer even if we do our best, sometimes turns out their complaint actually makes sense.
It is something bad when you make your job with love.. and a few costumer bother you with negativity (sometimes for very minor things) but it is what it is.
I am sure SE team mature enough to handle it as long as people keep it civil.

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Have had entire mountains of vitriol spewed at me during unplanned downtime of free service I hosted.. when lightning struck some of my servers. Aye aye am certain they are well experienced in this stuffs and can handle it. Look through github issues section if you wish to see skyrocketing levels of passive aggressive bug reporting. Those are most amusing to read :D

Pull request titled - Stinky doo doo code. Yummy. You kinda learn to accept that when there are issues people will experience unhappiness in any field.

They have been working on the game for almost 2 decades there isn't really any excuse why they are consistent with bungling things. When the community requests orange and they give yellow instead of just orange. That's just corporate nowadays they come out with solutions from left field that don't make sense and are completely illogical.

I don't understand this concept of "devs slave away to make this game for us". We pay them for it. This game is incredibly successful and has been so for a decade. They make a shitload of money out of it. They sell a ton of housing items for real money in their cash shop. So when a system that was a highlight of their expansion marketing and a highlight of their 6.1 patch marketing, that uses a lot of the items they readily accept your real money for from the Mogstation, simply does not work, people should just be all, "Oh well, they worked hard at it"? I understand telling people to not go over the top with their feedback, that is just normal human expectations. Yeah, there will be plenty of asshats who take it too far, but making a forum post saying, "Don't be mean" isn't really accomplishing much other than farming for a few likes and upvotes on the internet. When you release something broken, there will be pushback. The devs aren't "slaving away" for free just to put a smile on your face or some nonsense.

At the end of the day, we’re customers buying a product and nothing else. Square Enix, Blizzard or whoever else aren’t my friends, they’re doing it as a profession and I’m doing it as a hobby with disposable income. I’m entitled to criticise it, even harshly, and I’m also entitled to stop buying it. The key issue with MMOs is that they’re intended to be cash cows for executives so if enough of us stopped playing, for example, there would be questions for the devs to answer internally but that’s not the players problem.

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Originally Posted by aveyond-dreams

I'm sorry you were inconvenienced by the people who are rightfully complaining about the giant cat race that lost their ears or the people who have put up with 10 years of bad housing systems only to lose their lottery to a 0.

Hold them accountable through reasonable means or this game will go the way of WoW.

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This forum is the perfect example of how to go the way of WoW. make the devs hate their community and you get WoW.

Do not release incomplete and broken features. This is not acceptable to huge swathes of the paying consumer base. Goodwill is being lost with each of these controversies mounting on top of each other, some of which players like me saw coming back since late Stormblood. Do better.

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Originally Posted by Blackmagebro

Hello all!
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TL;DR stop being mean pls

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I appreciate this message, good post op.

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Originally Posted by Broken_Wind

This forum is the perfect example of how to go the way of WoW. make the devs hate their community and you get WoW.

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No, you get WoW from sexual harassment and drinking in the work place. Thanks for playing

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Originally Posted by Blackmagebro

Hello all!

I am new to posting here and I'm not sure if this is the appropriate place for this but I feel its necessary to be said regardless. I've seen quite a lot of heated discussions about the player housing situation and a few other past events where players have felt slighted or in some way inconvenienced and overwhelmingly people have been voicing their frustrations in a way that seems a tad overkill. Frustration is one thing but calling devs names or being hysterical about this or any situation does nothing but cause real people to be stressed out. I know we often laud the dev team and Yoshi-P especially but the opposite can be true too. Very bi-polar which is to be expected from such a large MMO audience.

I hope people who read this can voice their frustrations more gently and constructively in the future. I'm sorry you were inconvenienced but this is a game that you enjoy and its a career that game devs slave at to make. the disparity between our commitments is immeasurable. They want to make the best game they can and believing otherwise is foolish. I don't mean this to be another "praise Yoshi-P!" post so please understand that I just think our collective voices when compounded have a very drastic effect on real people and we should act accordingly.

TL;DR stop being mean pls

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Thanks OP for the thread. This is a new system afaik, so theres bound to be complications and.. lets be real. The message they wrote might be unsatisfying to most of you, but their reaction is faster then probably most other companies would ever do.
Yes it is our money, our subscription fee, this however should never justify harassment or even death threats.

And in the midst of this hellfire. We have easter holidays so...
Happy easter regardless of what is happening here at the moment.

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Originally Posted by Johners

At the end of the day, we’re customers buying a product and nothing else. Square Enix, Blizzard or whoever else aren’t my friends, they’re doing it as a profession and I’m doing it as a hobby with disposable income. I’m entitled to criticise it, even harshly, and I’m also entitled to stop buying it. The key issue with MMOs is that they’re intended to be cash cows for executives so if enough of us stopped playing, for example, there would be questions for the devs to answer internally but that’s not the players problem.

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You certainly do act entitled, yes.

But to be less snarky, you can voice your displeasure productively which has a better chance of leading to a better product with changes by the FFXIV that does care about its players
Or you can rage and act spoiled and any decisions made because of that (if any) are more likely to come from square enix who doesnt care about you at all.