Why Housing Was Doomed To Fail

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Originally Posted by Colt47

In all the years I've played the game, I can't think of a single time where housing produced feelings of joy or happiness.

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That's too bad! My own housing experience has been pretty positive; overall I've really enjoyed having a house as well as the neighborhood system. I like being able to see other houses (except for ugly Moogle monstrosities) and running into other people in the housing area. We even used to have a neighborhood linkshell. Decorating the house inside and out (we currently have Hatching-Tide decorations up) has been fun as well. We made indoor and outdoor jump puzzles. It has definitely been a focal point for our FC. And we got lucky and won the lottery! So for us it has been pretty good.

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Originally Posted by Avenger

That's too bad! My own housing experience has been pretty positive; overall I've really enjoyed having a house as well as the neighborhood system. I like being able to see other houses (except for ugly Moogle monstrosities) and running into other people in the housing area. We even used to have a neighborhood linkshell. Decorating the house inside and out (we currently have Hatching-Tide decorations up) has been fun as well. We made indoor and outdoor jump puzzles. It has definitely been a focal point for our FC. And we got lucky and won the lottery! So for us it has been pretty good.

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My statement is not a personal one. This is a community wide issue and while you may have found something in it, it is far outweighed by the pains that everyone has gone through because of this system. That and this is the same kind of sentiment and strawman situation that has shown up in gachapon games, where the few people who win in the system and are rewarded would obviously support or say good things about it.

In fact, turning this into a lotto essentially put housing one step closer to digital gambling with in-game currency. That's some food for thought.

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Originally Posted by Colt47

My statement is not a personal one. This is a community wide issue and while you may have found something in it, it is far outweighed by the pains that everyone has gone through because of this system. That and this is the same kind of sentiment and strawman situation that has shown up in gachapon games, where the few people who win in the system and are rewarded would obviously support or say good things about it.

In fact, turning this into a lotto essentially put housing one step closer to digital gambling with in-game currency. That's some food for thought.

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"In game currency".

Homie, I know for a fact most of my acquaintances that ran for big houses bought money outside the game. I've been playing for 7 months, heavily manipulating the market, buying from other servers to sell at mine, using the materia system and what not and I'm at 32M. I can only imagine the stuff people have to go through to make big bucks in this game. Just 24/7 crafting or something.

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Originally Posted by StarkeRegulus

"In game currency".

Homie, I know for a fact most of my acquaintances that ran for big houses bought money outside the game. I've been playing for 7 months, heavily manipulating the market, buying from other servers to sell at mine, using the materia system and what not and I'm at 32M. I can only imagine the stuff people have to go through to make big bucks in this game. Just 24/7 crafting or something.

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Im trying to compute why you would post this idea, like, what?
Are you trying to say simply "ingame? Theyre gambling with real money!"
Or like "no one got gil whos bidding on a large legitimately"

Ive been anticipating ishgard housing since well before the firmament and ive been saving gil for it for a long time. Ive left the money for a house on one of my retainers so i could never touch it or go under that amount. Selling desired stuff on patch days or days when people acquire housing typically gets you alot of gil

Its what i would be doing if i didnt basically just quit.

The devs won't listen to the player base in any meaningful capacity whilst there's tens, if not hundreds of thousands of free apartments still in the game. Not every server is Balmung or Mateus, and whilst apartments aren't perfect, they're a perfectly acceptable compromise, even if only temporarily (they're also super cheap, permanent, and not tied to a subscription). More Wards means more sets of empty apartments, and that's a sizable waste of resources for the developers to waste because the wider player base refuses to spend the bare minimum of 500k to own an apartment.

Tl;DR actually buy apartments, and the devs will be more likely to take housing shortage concerns seriously.

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Originally Posted by ElysiumDragon

The devs won't listen to the player base in any meaningful capacity whilst there's tens, if not hundreds of thousands of free apartments still in the game. Not every server is Balmung or Mateus, and whilst apartments aren't perfect, they're a perfectly acceptable compromise, even if only temporarily (they're also super cheap, permanent, and not tied to a subscription). More Wards means more sets of empty apartments, and that's a sizable waste of resources for the developers to waste because the wider player base refuses to spend the bare minimum of 500k to own an apartment.

Tl;DR actually buy apartments, and the devs will be more likely to take housing shortage concerns seriously.

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I just wanted to make sure this is satire because if you think people want apartments I have some bad news about small houses for you

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Originally Posted by ElysiumDragon

The devs won't listen to the player base in any meaningful capacity whilst there's tens, if not hundreds of thousands of free apartments still in the game. Not every server is Balmung or Mateus, and whilst apartments aren't perfect, they're a perfectly acceptable compromise, even if only temporarily (they're also super cheap, permanent, and not tied to a subscription). More Wards means more sets of empty apartments, and that's a sizable waste of resources for the developers to waste because the wider player base refuses to spend the bare minimum of 500k to own an apartment.

Tl;DR actually buy apartments, and the devs will be more likely to take housing shortage concerns seriously.

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Apartments are nice and cozy and hopefully island will fix the gardening monopoly on houses. Devs have listened but no matter what they do people will still be angry. They added more wards prior, changed the housing system several times to prevent monopolies but there isn't a solid fix for having in game housing not instanced. The luxury of the houses is the fact that you can walk around and visit others. Instancing them will kill a huge part of the housing community.

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Originally Posted by Corvus_V

I just wanted to make sure this is satire because if you think people want apartments I have some bad news about small houses for you

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Once someone had a small they will theb complaine about not having a medium and so forth. That's just how it is. If you want property it's either you get an appartment or keep up the grind for a house. Adventually you will get it. To me the lottery system makes it more fair but also harder to get a house. Least when I spammed placards I saw the competition and earned the house by out doing the other clickers. Lottery is no work on your behalf for the same reward. Just gotta fish out the coding bug

Sorry to burst your bubble of "Eventually you will get it" is complete bs. 7 years of trying, fighting and losing to every kind of bs, bot or bug says otherwise. No one actually wanted apartments, it was a bandaid fix hoping that fool's would look away from the lack of progress made to fix the real issues.

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Originally Posted by BellBixbite

Once someone had a small they will theb complaine about not having a medium and so forth. That's just how it is. If you want property it's either you get an appartment or keep up the grind for a house. Adventually you will get it. To me the lottery system makes it more fair but also harder to get a house. Least when I spammed placards I saw the competition and earned the house by out doing the other clickers. Lottery is no work on your behalf for the same reward. Just gotta fish out the coding bug

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Oh god its the superstitious. Im not entertaining that.

No, there is no grind anymore, its RNG, and you wont get a chance unless the people who just got those houses move. Or they add more wards. At an average or like 10 bids per 5 wards, they would need almost 100 more personal ones for people to be satisfied. They should just add instanced homesteads so as many people can own larges and mediums as they want.

No, more people are bidding on mediums and larges outright because you dont need a small to transfer, and they can already afford mediums and larges. Hence the massively skewed bid numbers

Im sorry to burst your bubble on this but people dont want smalls because their decoration limit is hilariously low, and apartments have outrageously low space.

Also, none of this is more fair to anyone who prepared to buy a medium or large by first placard clicking at a small. People just dont want to discuss that because they dont care.