Keep overpower cone shaped!

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Originally Posted by Terhix

Anecdotally Xeno just did a stream covering tank changes and explained why circle Overpower is just better.

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You say that like xenos opinion on this is worth anything. I can't think of any high end content outside of maybe a2s where warrior's aoe combo is remotely relevant. Has he not said multiple times that he cares not for dungeons? Did he not whinge hard enough that they put guaranteed crits on inner release? In addition this livestream is inconveniently sub only currently and I have no intention whatsoever of paying.

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Originally Posted by Terhix

Instead of attempting mind reading you should be reading what I wrote, since I've explained myself quite clearly: you have to stop sprinting to turn around on standard which means you will get hit.

Is it hard as in difficult to do? No.
Is it a pain (as in, annoying, but in this case also literal since you are taking unnecessary damage)? Yes.
Would it happen if you used circle aoe regardless of what control scheme you are on? No.

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you do not have to stop sprinting to do that though but if you feel that is neccessary then you can always stop and take the unneccesssary damage on the class that can give itself massively unneccessary healing

majority of players do not care for optimal play in a dungeon and people stopping to take unneccessary damage is almost always the case also console players play with legacy with default and so do the devs while standard was neglected for a long time

do you know what you lose for stopping to overpower?
only 3 seconds and some HP which you can give back to yourself instantly back in heavensward when I was a new player I wouldn't even overpower I would just run through mobs and hit equilibrium then have all the aggro without hitting anything but even today equilibrium can still do that which means you never had to stop as a warrior player on standard

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Originally Posted by Neihel

(...) when I was a new player I wouldn't even overpower I would just run through mobs and hit equilibrium then have all the aggro without hitting anything but even today equilibrium can still do that which means you never had to stop as a warrior player on standard

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Did you just say that as a new player you would rather dump a cooldown into overhealing to get aggro than press Overpower? Because I think that's what you said, but I thought you were arguing against me?

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Originally Posted by Terhix

Did you just say that as a new player you would rather dump a cooldown into overhealing to get aggro than press Overpower? Because I think that's what you said, but I thought you were arguing against me?

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this is like 7 years ago, don't make a fool of yourself but even today if you're a new player struggling with aggro equilibrium is a tool you can use there's no need to change overpower for people that can't aim and there's 3 other classes that have a circular AOE but as a counter arguement for your first post let's make unleash a cone so it can appeal to new DRK players that are currently on warrior since that is to you a good thing

you made your forum account like a year ago on the last month of the year and all of a sudden you're watching xenos parroting his questionable opinions and think all tanks should be homogenized because that's what Xenos says in a lot of his content, if you carefully watch his videos he wants all the tanks to be the same this is the guy that complains about gunbreaker losing a few GCDs whenever they have to position a boss which is a problem only a small minority of speed clearers will face and worry about

If anything, every tank should have a cone AoE as it's essential for positioning a very large pack of mobs AWAY from your party. Yes you could still move with circle AoEs, but without the cone shape and extra range you miss half the pack while you're positioning away. And if you don't and just stand there spamming circle AoEs? The mobs are spread out all around you, throwing their own AoEs in every which direction! It's pure chaos! I get a huge relief from getting to move over for Overpower, after 4-5GCDs of IR, just to reposition everyone, get them all facing one way, my party can identify safe spots behind the pack, and it's all hella comfy tanking.

Not having any cone in the basic rotation is just inferior in every way, and without having levelled another tank yet, I just have no idea how it doesn't feel awful to wall to wall without it. Please don't take this away, the only players complaining about it are those who don't understand the point. They just want to stand in one spot without moving. Xeno when praising this change, cited wanting to watch netflix on 2nd monitor as why. It's a complete joke. There is no good reason for tanks to not value a cone AoE. It isn't even about job identity or flavor; every tank should have this as a basic part of their kit.

Turning Overpower into a circle is a drooling braindead move. Go play PLD/DRK/GNB if you like that.

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Originally Posted by Terhix

Xeno

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Just because a STREEMUR says something doesn't mean his words hold any weight. This is a super dumb take.

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Originally Posted by Neihel

this is like 7 years ago, don't make a fool of yourself but even today if you're a new player struggling with aggro equilibrium is a tool you can use there's no need to change overpower for people that can't aim

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Again, you are arguing my point.

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Originally Posted by Neihel

you made your forum account like a year ago on the last month of the year and all of a sudden you're watching xenos parroting his questionable opinions and think all tanks should be homogenized because that's what Xenos says in a lot of his content

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Ah yes, ad hominem. Thank you and good night sir.

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Originally Posted by Terhix

Ah yes, ad hominem. Thank you and good night sir.

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You don't even play warrior and you want the class to be changed for you, well guess what they listened and made it "easier" though I doubt it is any easier just means we have less options in the game overall by next expansion every tank will be a reskinned DRK because the balance team this expansion is making so many questionable changes when shadow

this "Ad hominem" as you call it is justifiable because I am pointing at your lack of experience but you're free to use that word without understanding it
it is not "Ad Hominem" for calling you out for being new. someone else in a post above called you out for not understanding Xenos content and they watched the same stream as you did

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Originally Posted by pyxls

Turning Overpower into a circle is a drooling braindead move. Go play PLD/DRK/GNB if you like that.

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The other tanks should still be holding mobs like they have a cone anyway, especially DRK with their line AoEs, you won't want anything behind you in those situations.

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Originally Posted by Neihel

You don't even play warrior and you want the class to be changed for you

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I neither do nor did want it changed. I do think it is a change for the better, but I'm just mostly baffled that a change that makes all AoEs on Warrior internally consistent is gathering a reaction as if all WAR potencies were just cut in half.

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Originally Posted by Neihel

this "Ad hominem" as you call it is justifiable because I am pointing at your lack of experience but you're free to use that word without understanding it

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You looked at when I joined the forums, and one mention of Xeno, and somehow concluded you know anything about me. No, sir, you are assuming my lack of experience, and that too is a fallacy.