Updating Veteran Rewards.

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Originally Posted by Iscah

I get that for the exclusive rewards, but the complete lack of anything non-exclusive after that is still disappointing.

As I was saying earlier, some kind of tokens or item rewards would be nice. Even just gold feathers so you can buy a couple of the expensive dyes or something.

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Why do things HAVE to be exclusive? We get those enough with event titles/items

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Originally Posted by Bacent

Why do things HAVE to be exclusive? We get those enough with event titles/items

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I'm not sure why you're jumping at me for this. I'm not asking for exclusive things, just talking about what I think they should do instead of giving us nothing because they don't want to introduce additional exclusive things.

I'm saying they should give us non-exclusive things that also come from other sources, so it's a bonus without being unattainable any other way.

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Originally Posted by Bacent

Why do things HAVE to be exclusive?

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Because it rewards players who would do things that normal players would not by rewarding them with unique items? /shrug

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Originally Posted by Iscah

I'm not sure why you're jumping at me for this. I'm not asking for exclusive things, just talking about what I think they should do instead of giving us nothing because they don't want to introduce additional exclusive things.

I'm saying they should give us non-exclusive things that also come from other sources, so it's a bonus without being unattainable any other way.

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Cause I misread what you wrote. My bad on that.

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Originally Posted by Enkidoh

The reason the Veteran Reward system got gutted was because it reached a point where the requirements to get the highest rewards at the time (FFVIII's Squall Leonhart's outfit from Dissidia, a highly sought-after outfit) was virtually impossible for new players just joining to attain the required rank to get, that only those who had been playing from launch were able to get it (due to the huge length of subscription time required, which especially was impossible to get if paying for subscription by credit card/debit card). So, SE greatly cut down the Veteran Reward ranks to four, and moved most of the gear and items received to the new Achievement Points system.

Accordingly, as Alestorm mentioned SE are not going to add anything new to the Veteran Rewards, as it will either go to the Mogstation/Online Store or Achievement Points. It just makes it fairer for new players.

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This makes zero sense. There is this thing people do when something takes a long time. It's called waiting.

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Originally Posted by MsQi

This makes zero sense. There is this thing people do when something takes a long time. It's called waiting.

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Nowadays it can't be expected from people to wait for something. They want everything now and with least effort.

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Originally Posted by ACE135

Nowadays it can't be expected from people to wait for something. They want everything now and with least effort.

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Oh wow. I took a 5 years break and nothing really changes. People still say stuff like this

As others mentioned, further rewards were supposed to come from achievements but they've been rather underwhelming on what's available. I like many suggestions in this thread. Give us a good reason to chase those achievements and get those points. Right now we don't really have one.

I wasn't too sad to see veteran rewards go the way of the dodo. It was a concept from older MMOs and just feels outdated in today's MMO landscape.

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Originally Posted by MsQi

This makes zero sense. There is this thing people do when something takes a long time. It's called waiting.

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To be fair: Waiting in this context meant "waiting for 1440 days to get the Squall outfit" - well, a little less because you can pay for 180(?) days in advance, but still... thats almost 4 years of keeping an active sub - and that was only the last veteran reward they added. Had they kept the system, it would have only gone up from there. I can see why they adjusted that - I'm saying this as someone who got the veteran rewards by waiting back in the days (only I did had to wait - having subscribed since ARR beta, I just got the new stuff as soon as it was released since the rewards kinda assumed that you started playing with 2.0).

I very much agree with the sentiment that they should add more stuff to the achievement vendor - they havent really made up for the loss of veteran rewards like they promised they would. But locking stuff behind being subscribed for 4+ years got a bit unreasonable... This isnt "people want everything right now" this is "people dont want to wait for the duration that it takes one to earn a bachelors degree to get a costume".

I think they need to add more things. Even if it's just another place to buy the old gear instead of with hunts - those achievement points need to be good for SOMETHING, surely?