Wait... there are reskins of the freaking ZODIAC WEAPONS?!?

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Originally Posted by Starshower

Ok, ok, shit on me all you like all of you with tons of wolf marks, but do you really think it's ok to make a pvp set a crafted item? Let people have something to work towards! Not everyone starts with 20k wolf marks, you know!

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Yep, so much work for queueing up for your daily frontline, run around like a headless chicken and get the rewards all the same.

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Originally Posted by grinkdaboy

sure

if you want exclusive gear, do savage raids or ultimates

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Your argument is meaningless and flawed. They already made the coils of bahamut armor into a crafted set. Your eden gear is not safe from that treatment in the future.

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Originally Posted by Starshower

Ok, ok, shit on me all you like all of you with tons of wolf marks, but do you really think it's ok to make a pvp set a crafted item? Let people have something to work towards! Not everyone starts with 20k wolf marks, you know!

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It's a different color set than what the PvP gear has. While they have the same model, they aren't identical. I was actually really excited because I love the caster head and gloves, but the colors didn't really work well mixed with other sets (even dyed). The crafted caster set has colors and dyability that work better for me.

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Originally Posted by Starshower

Your argument is meaningless and flawed. They already made the coils of bahamut armor into a crafted set. Your eden gear is not safe from that treatment in the future.

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And they never did that again. Also, this was years and years ago at this point in early Heavensward. So...yeah. Instead, they started locking the dyeable versions of normal/Savage raid gear behind Savage raiding at the start of Alexander and continue to do so to this day, some of which have unique design additions that their normal mode counterparts don't have.

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Originally Posted by Starshower

Ok, ok, shit on me all you like all of you with tons of wolf marks, but do you really think it's ok to make a pvp set a crafted item? Let people have something to work towards! Not everyone starts with 20k wolf marks, you know!

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??
lol it takes like 5 frontlines to get a full set
i really don't get this complaint man, i hate reskins as much as the next guy but you're barking up the wrong tree w/ this one

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Originally Posted by Starshower

They just made a coveted PVP set the new crafted gear

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me spending all my marks at once to trade in the extra special sugoi coveted gear to maelstrom hq for like 5k seals

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Originally Posted by Starshower

Your argument is meaningless and flawed. They already made the coils of bahamut armor into a crafted set. Your eden gear is not safe from that treatment in the future.

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Oh you mean when they didnt have a solid structure how to do raids, proven by the fact that savage versions only exist of the second tier? And what do you mean with safe in general? I can just unsync alex savage now with a bunch of idiots like me and faceroll everything. You act like savage gear doesnt already lose that kind of meaning you want it to have.

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Originally Posted by Terin

I'm several years too late on this, I'm sure, but having recently acquired and finished my first Zodiac weapon (Excalibur & Aegis), I was honestly stunned today when I joined a group, and saw a guy wielding the same weapon -- except it was simply a green item.

I'm personally hoping to finish one of each expansion's Relic weapons, if only to experience more of the story. But I'm not gonna lie, knowing there could well be easy-to-access reskins of any of those weapons... that kills a lot of the excitement, and feeling of these weapons being "special".

I've heard people complain about reskins and recolors before, but that's the first instance I'd encountered where I genuinely felt like something I'd earned was suddenly *less cool*, because such an easy-to-access version exists.

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*Gasp* OMG! You are right!

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Originally Posted by Saraide

Oh you mean when they didnt have a solid structure how to do raids, proven by the fact that savage versions only exist of the second tier? And what do you mean with safe in general? I can just unsync alex savage now with a bunch of idiots like me and faceroll everything. You act like savage gear doesnt already lose that kind of meaning you want it to have.

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Even most of Stormblood's Savage raid gear is easy to get now. Just gotta do a dance or two to get through a couple mechanics (if any at all). Alphascape 4.0 is still a bit painful though, but mostly in the first half. The "Goodbye World" strategy in the 2nd half is both efficient and entertaining. lol

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Originally Posted by Ath192

This is like giving a player the same food everyday at a cafeteria with a subscription because the cook doesn’t want to bother with new recipes.

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More accurately the cook doesn't have the time and resources to make you a bunch of new recipes every day, so rather than letting you go hungry they give you pizza square v5.