I think by now Viera should be able to wear any hat

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Originally Posted by Espon

Huh? I don't have an issue with ears poking through hats, in fact I want them to, or at least have ear pockets. Almost all the new headgear models cut off a miqo'te's ears in EW. If they cannot be bothered modify a hat on a race that can already wear hats to allow their ears to show, why would they put in the effort allow Viera to properly wear a hat?

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Ohhhh. I mis-read your comment, sorry.

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Originally Posted by Atamis

Why are the garland ushankas okay but the tome gear and AF (that isn't reaper because lul reasons) not?

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Now that I think about it, that is kind of weird, isn't it? Reaper is the only Job in the entire game that doesn't give a crap what you're wearing, because it auto-glamours you during your rotation into a bland robe that erases your ears/horns. So why did they bother making the effort to make Reaper's hat work with Viera?

Makes no since that they can't wear all the head gear yet. They made the head gear work for cat race and au ra's but can't for the viera is weird.

Without encouraging the use of something that violates the TOS (and thus covering my own rear by saying such,) I would now like to innocently point out that a mod (multiple actually) already exists to allow Viera and Hrothgar to allow many (if not almost all) hats and helmets in the game. Any excuse from SE as to why they can't do it is just that, an excuse. If corporate is just refusing to allow them to allocate time and resources to such a thing I'd rather they just come out and say as much. If the people that make these mods can do it, I see no reason SE can't manage it.

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Originally Posted by Atamis

I don't even expect old hats to work. But when NEW hats don't? Are they even trying? its literally a check box option to turn on hats with clipping, i really don't need SEs permission to use hats, they clearly don't carea bout clipping since the few hats they did add this xpac clip, except the ones they decided not to clip!? Why are the garland ushankas okay but the tome gear and AF (that isn't reaper because lul reasons) not?

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Originally Posted by Rosenstrauch

Now that I think about it, that is kind of weird, isn't it? Reaper is the only Job in the entire game that doesn't give a crap what you're wearing, because it auto-glamours you during your rotation into a bland robe that erases your ears/horns. So why did they bother making the effort to make Reaper's hat work with Viera?

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Whatever the base reason for it is, the logic is that hats can work if they do not interfere with hair at all OR they fully hide the hair.

Hats that replace the top half of the hair but leave the lower half visible do not work.

If it's as simple as "modders can tick a box and it works", I don't see why they continue to stick to the distinction with what works officially, so perhaps the mods are able to do something in the back end that can't be controlled when equipping it in the base game? Does the hair model stay switched on and clipping through the hats?

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Originally Posted by Iscah

Whatever the base reason for it is, the logic is that hats can work if they do not interfere with hair at all OR they fully hide the hair.

Hats that replace the top half of the hair but leave the lower half visible do not work.

If it's as simple as "modders can tick a box and it works", I don't see why they continue to stick to the distinction with what works officially, so perhaps the mods are able to do something in the back end that can't be controlled when equipping it in the base game? Does the hair model stay switched on and clipping through the hats?

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Hair would clip through hats as none of the hair is set up the same way as other races, though making it so shouldn't be a challenge for SE, considering they do it all the time. Figure they just gave up cause the ears would clip through some stuff and that's the only thing that would be an issue otherwise.

I'm surprised that Viera aren't able to wear special hats.
Like, mogstation hats, seasonal ones, or even item code ones like Matoya'a Hat.

If Viera could wear Matoya'a Hat I'd be one.
(Maybe not forever, but I'd def fantasia back and forth between that and my Lala)

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Originally Posted by SherlottaEryut

I think at this point we’re just gonna have to accept the fact that Hroth and Viera will always have limitations.

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And people like you is the reason for it. You get helf a job for full price and love it. What here need to make the devs finish it? Expect more of this going on.

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Originally Posted by SamsaraTrickstar

And people like you is the reason for it. You get helf a job for full price and love it. What here need to make the devs finish it? Expect more of this going on.

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I guess I'm half in both camps. I was more than agreeable at the start: No hats or hair? Well, they said it was for unique customizations that no other race has access to. Viera specific hair releases and lots of options!

We didn't get that. The fact they are unlocking hair instead of giving us new ones, and male viera were made with hair in mind, proves this was a dead-on-arrival idea. That customization? Only one set of ears actually have physics and wiggle/move around when you do (ironically it is the very stiff looking pair).

I'm still begging SE to make good on their promise that these races were limited for special exclusives. In fact, I'm asking more of SE than just letting us use MAs and hats.

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Originally Posted by SherlottaEryut

I think at this point we’re just gonna have to accept the fact that Hroth and Viera will always have limitations.

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That or just accept that Yoshi-P and the devs absolutely despise both Hrothgar and Vierra players in general. And at this point should accept mods (cause at least someone will do it when Squeenix devs won't even bother to try after new expansion releases).

Seriously, if they just say they hate new race players, and I think we'd (at this point) accept it over gobshite excuses.