Often people say that Dark Knight is in a bad spot, but what other Jobs...

Reading some of these feedbacks about DRK makes me laugh a bit. CLEARLY they haven't read the tank side of the forums about DRK situation.

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Originally Posted by BluexBird

DRK is great right now, don't listen to people who say otherwise. Or at least ask them to clarify.

Here's a few myths:

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No one said DRK isn't viable, has bad damage or bad aesthetic. You can't just make up a few myths while at the same time completely ignore the numerous class design flaws and outdated abilities the class has.

Dark Knight is not in a bad spot. It has 8 mitigation tools and the highest DPS of all tanks at the moment.

The problem with Dark Knight is that it didn't receive any self-sustain tools like Warrior, Gunbreaker, or Paladin. It still needs Living Dead addressed because it is functionally a horrible invulnerability mechanic due to the consequences that other tanks don't suffer from.

If it were me i'd change Oblation into an Aurora-esque ability similar to Gunbreakers. It already has 2 charges, and the mitigation from it wouldn't be missed if a HoT could be gained instead.

Change Living Dead into something less punishing.

And maybe tone its damage down a bit because its absurd right now at high end.

If it needs such changes then wouldn't it not be in a good spot?

I don't really see Warriors or Paladins asking for big and numerous changes.

Gunbreaker is okay too, I guess. Seems to have a higher skill ceiling to master.

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Originally Posted by Seraphor

NIN is clunkier
SCH has gained nothing and fallen behind the other healers for it.
ASTs cards are terrible now (but it's saved by it's healing kit)

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Scholar/Sage is meta right now.

AST cards are the same as they've been for years now, and i'm surprised that it doesn't have a place in the current meta, tbh.

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Originally Posted by Dogempire

Machinist sucks right now, so do all of the healers once you get used to the kit, I hear dragoon isn't bad, just forgotten and kinda overshadowed

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Eh for Dragoon it's rotation is fine, all I'd say is some buff to potencies if anything since it doesn't feel like it hits that -hard-, but I might not also be used to the smaller numbers yet.

Nothing feels as bad to me as DRK atm, astro cards need fixed cuz the rng does feel awful even moreso than before thanks to astrodyne but the rest of the kit is still enjoyable. The other healers all feel fine, sch feels enjoyable to me now where I hated it in shb due to how clunky it felt.. it still has some weirdness in it's base but the fairy feels much more snappy and I actually like the 90 skill, sch is 100% superior to sage in my eyes. Monk feels weird but I have not played it enough yet to say too much other than I miss my postionals, though I still find myself going for them out of habit.

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Originally Posted by Duskane

machinist
still has its design flaws and didn't gain too much

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They really don't want machinist to be good in this game.

DRK is currently the worst tank in dungeons, and have suffered from losing abilities every expansion.

People who say DRK is not in a bad spot are people who have no idea what they are saying. It has so many problems I could make a list. And proof of that is the mega thread here in the forums that has almost 200 pages of players complaining about the job. The job has almost no healing in dungeons with the exception of abyssal drain and it's only worth using with 4 or more ads with a 60-second cooldown. Delirium is a bad copy of the inner release. Bloodweapon is clunky as hell, needs to be changed into a 5 gcd action. Dark mind is very niche and the living dead is horrible. Salted earth and its new skill look like it was made by my kid in his free time on his 10-year-old computer. Do you really think salt and darkness is expansion-worthy content? Shadowbringers is a line aoe just like the edge of shadow when it should be something unique, it's the level 90 skill. Not to even talk about his traits, "Enhanced Unmend" - Reduces recast time of Plunge by 5 seconds when executing Unmend on most targets - This trait is bad and lazy. It's just a 1-2-3 combo and popping off offgcd's when off cooldown. The job has no identity.