Healers, not required. (EW SPOILERS)

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Originally Posted by Komarimono

latency had nothing to do with it, since you want to get snarky. I've had to play from Australia visiting friends, and once was used to the delay, had no issues.

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So glad it works for you. I see an AOE, and I'm out of it ON MY SCREEN, and still get hit. This happens dozens of times to more people than just me. And if you pre-emptively move, before you see the AOE, then you can get hit by a different attack or forget to hit your combo.

Dunno about the rest of you but I still look at my hotbar when fighting, I have not and probably will not memorize the buttons to where I don't have to. (Summoner was muscle memory but not new summoner and reaper is a definite no for muscle memory.)

Those people expecting this are elitests and way less than the number you gave.

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Originally Posted by Nekaru_Infitima

So glad it works for you. I see an AOE, and I'm out of it ON MY SCREEN, and still get hit. This happens dozens of times to more people than just me. And if you pre-emptively move, before you see the AOE, then you can get hit by a different attack or forget to hit your combo.

Dunno about the rest of you but I still look at my hotbar when fighting, I have not and probably will not memorize the buttons to where I don't have to. (Summoner was muscle memory but not new summoner.)

Those people expecting this are elitests and way less than the number you gave.

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Your inability does not make others elitist. You've just not found a ui setup that works for you, and your refusal to adapt to your latency is on you. If you know you'll be hit even after you move, move sooner, that simple.

There is a reason people make and join practice groups like I do, to learn these things.

This isn't anything new. People beat savage fights back in SHB without healers either.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zdDxjXMMWgU

EX1 in EW places almost all of its unavoidable damage in literally two attacks: The bleed AOE & the multi stack marker, both of which are staggered out heavily between uses meaning there's huge amount of time for all the CDs that make no healer possible to recharge. Outside of those two attacks there's like, zero unavoidable AOE damage, it's no surprise it can be done without healers. Try it in something like, EX2 where there's two uses of the multi-stack marker within like, 45s-60s of each other, or extremely rapid, high-impact full raid wide damage happening.

If anything, the video showcases just how important balancing fight design is with the amount of extra tools they've given non-healers.

Not to mention...you honestly think any random PUG/PF would be able to co-ordinate this level of mitigation planning where anything missing is basically a wipe? (watch how close they get to dying every stack)
No healer challenges will always be for the high end players who are bored. At least one healer will be mandatory for 99.9% of groups.

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Originally Posted by Komarimono

Your inability does not make others elitist. You've just not found a ui setup that works for you, and your refusal to adapt to your latency is on you. If you know you'll be hit even after you move, move sooner, that simple.

There is a reason people make and join practice groups like I do, to learn these things.

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...I'm done with you.

This is why the devs don't cater to your kind.

What is the point of this thread honestly? If it is to brag about it, that is good and congratulations, if it is to say that healer role are useless than in my understanding, Healer role are there to mitigate damage or heal hp and help dps ing when no one need it, having them is an assurance, but you can enter any instance with whatever class you want, all 8 dps or all 8 tank or solo it in probably 4 years or less from now

Ah it's the chinese gamers. Carry on.

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Originally Posted by Nekaru_Infitima

...I'm done with you.

This is why the devs don't cater to your kind.

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You act and imply I'm some sort of hardcore raider, when in just a casual player. Funny thing is, the developers do cater to players like myself. Fail mechanics, punished with death debuff eventually after stacking damage debuffs.

You think it offensive that I do practice runs apparently before entering farm groups, not realizing the game isn't about just you, since when you screw up, you punish everyone else.

Know what differs between us? I respect other people's time by not wasting it and playing as well as I can, you make excuses.

"no healers required"

take away second wind, curing waltz, bloodbath, clemency and bloodwhetting. if we don't need healers, we don't need healing actions.

oh wait...

edit: let's also not forget this is a premade that knows what they're doing. half of my own datacenter would be helpless without healers in the party.

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Originally Posted by ErryK

"no healers required"

take away second wind, curing waltz, bloodbath, clemency and bloodwhetting. if we don't need healers, we don't need healing actions.

oh wait...

edit: let's also not forget this is a premade that knows what they're doing. half of my own datacenter would be helpless without healers in the party.

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Pretty much this. They chain farmed it for accessories and just wanted to try something fun and challenging for the heck of it.

I mean people have been doing this since HW. I remember man mode Zurvan ex vividly.