Dev-Team gonna Add/Update Character Creation And Veteran players have to Pay for it

Meh big deal. Its just cosmetics behind the paywall. Pay the 5 bucks and support the game!

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Originally Posted by Valkyrie_Lenneth

They can't add further customization options to the char creator without completely overhauling the entire game backend. Unfortunately.

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IMO the op comes across as very.. whiney..

But in response to your post - Why are people so quick to defend squares bad choices....
So many parts of the game are just behind the times - and people just throw out mindless crap like "engine is old" or some other crap.

other MMOs consistantly change or future proof their games - Square does not.
Everything from the character creator to the glam system in FF is not future proofed and goes unupdated... and people just defend squares decision to ignore these features.

they will not do better as long as you keep giving them a pass.

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Originally Posted by Larirawiel

Sorry but i do not believe that. :) I highly doubt that the game backend is so restricted.

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To clarify something: the limitations of the existing codebase do not prevent them from adding new options to the aesthetician (i.e., letting you change eye color or face options). That change is feasible, and given the restrictions the limitations do impose on things like Hrothgar hairstyles and such, probably actually entirely justified at this point.

But the limitations of the existing codebase absolutely prevent them from changing the way existing customization options work; that's why the stubble had to be added as a new face, rather than a hairstyle-like-thing you could add to all the existing faces. (Hence why it requires a fantasia, because changing your face currently requires a fantasia.)

I.e., the reason the stubble is a change that requires a fantasia is due to the limitations of the system, since it couldn't be a 'hairstyle' and had to be a new face. The reason that changing your face requires a fantasia in the first place, though, instead of an aesthetician, is more a lore choice than anything else; there's no technical reason they couldn't move changing your face, eye color, etc., into the aesthetician instead of requiring a fantasia.

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Originally Posted by Tsukino

Edit: Packetdancer, how dare you post the exact same thing I was going to post right as I hit the reply button and then slowly typed it. How dare you, sir.

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*dusts her knuckles on her jacket, blows on them once*

Great minds, and all that.

It's not a cash grab. There's no doubt in my mind, that if they could have done it another way they would have. The game has limitations. We KNOW this.

Stop pretending otherwise, it's disingenuous.

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Originally Posted by Anatha

It's not a cash grab. There's no doubt in my mind, that if they could have done it another way they would have. The game has limitations. We KNOW this.

Stop pretending otherwise, it's disingenuous.

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the only limitation is the amount of work they are willing to put into it.
This isnt a huge feature, so the devs arent updating it... stop giving them a pass.

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Originally Posted by nelothi

IMO the op comes across as very.. whiney..

But in response to your post - Why are people so quick to defend squares bad choices....
So many parts of the game are just behind the times - and people just throw out mindless crap like "engine is old" or some other crap.

other MMOs consistantly change or future proof their games - Square does not.
Everything from the character creator to the glam system in FF is not future proofed and goes unupdated... and people just defend squares decision to ignore these features.

they will not do better as long as you keep giving them a pass.

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It's not bad choices - it's fundamental code restrictions. FFXIV is built upon the dumpster fire that was 1.0 and that creatively got around each release - more inventory slots because you no longer have belts. Yes it is not ideal but these little idiosyncrasies are what make FFXIV unique.

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Originally Posted by Wolverno

it is more than two and i do regret every one of them, that i had to use Fantasia to change skin color only. Then i Stopped completely and also i have o right to complain about it.

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Oh you do, everyone is allowed to complain.
The only difference is whether it makes sense or not.
If you want to change race, that I could understand because people will wants to play on new race model.
You used fantasia just for skin color and now complains about facial hair?
Well, you can keep complaining about it I just don't understand the logic

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Originally Posted by Anatha

It's not a cash grab. There's no doubt in my mind, that if they could have done it another way they would have. The game has limitations. We KNOW this.

Stop pretending otherwise, it's disingenuous.

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yeah the game have limitation but the Dev-team never spoke of the limitation that in your Mind ,Stop pretending otherwise :) ( they need to explain the Limitation)

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Originally Posted by Bearded

It's not bad choices - it's fundamental code restrictions. FFXIV is built upon the dumpster fire that was 1.0 and that creatively got around each release - more inventory slots because you no longer have belts. Yes it is not ideal but these little idiosyncrasies are what make FFXIV unique.

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FWIW, the game itself doesn't share any significant code with 1.x.

Now, I would be shocked if it didn't inherit some bad choices from 1.x just by virtue of reusing existing models and chunks of map and such in the name of expedience given their ridiculously tight deadline to make A Realm Reborn. After all, if you have existing character models that work in a wonky manner for customization but don't have time to make new character models, then your new system is going to have a wonky character customization design also even if it shares no code with the original. But in terms of actual code, the client shares none, and the servers supposedly share very little.

(Save for the login servers, where we're apparently now paying the price for those still being built atop the 1.0-era codebase.)

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Originally Posted by Wolverno

yeah the game have limitation but the Dev-team never spoke of the limitation that in your Mind ,Stop pretending otherwise :) ( they need to explain the Limitation)

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They have explained on more than one occasion what the limitations are. Whether some of it is actually true or not may be up for debate but they've been pretty open about it, especially recently.