SE I present you the cloud !

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Originally Posted by Naiw

That’s exactly what you can do using cloud…. But it’s quite pointless to discuss here seening how very few apparently knows anything about the cloud but just argues ”you need to rewrite or write from ground up” which is utterbullcrap, there are tons of software running in the cloud that was written way before cloud hosting was even a thing.

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Erm there is a difference in just programs and MMOs lol while they share similar stuff but they also different. However, you also have no clue what all goes into it you are just assuming so you are exactly like the people you are complaining about and again SE already have made a statement over Cloud Servers

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Originally Posted by Swimcito

Hello, SE

So, you could not get physical servers ....

I present you....

-Amazon Web Services.
-Azure Cloud
-Oracle Cloud
-Google Cloud
-VMWare Cloud

You could just do temporary new servers, there and then do a migration to inhouse/physical servers.

This is really lazy from your Cloud Architecture team (if you even have one)

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Don't embarrass yourself like this, please, you're obviously ignorant to this topic.

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Originally Posted by Naiw

Just as a few examples (and no it’s not cheap)

https://cloud.ibm.com/gen1/infrastructure/provision/bm

https://www.ovhcloud.com/en-ie/bare-metal

http://https://azure.microsoft.com/e...edicated-host/

But you’ll find that basically all cloud providers offer this, and none are sold out due to pandemics or semiconductor delays.

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LOL you know this is not what is going to be offered for a MMO the size of FF14. Again, you are just assuming this is what will be offered and act like it will be easy transferring the game to cloud servers

Also cloud servers do have their own draw backs just like physical servers..... New World is on Amazons cloud server and since release was suffering from massive lag and still does suffer for server lag however thats prob due to crappy coding

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Originally Posted by Zileth

Erm there is a difference in just programs and MMOs lol while they share similar stuff but they also different. However, you also have no clue what all goes into it you are just assuming so you are exactly like the people you are complaining about and again SE already have made a statement over Cloud Servers

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Or perhaps I do?

But yes I’m complaining because this is unacceptable and no excuse or yoship tears will change that.

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Originally Posted by Zileth

LOL you know this is not what is going to be offered for a MMO the size of FF14. Again, you are just assuming this is what will be offered and act like it will be easy transferring the game to cloud servers

Also cloud servers do have their own draw backs just like physical servers..... New World is on Amazons cloud server and since release was suffering from massive lag and still does suffer for server lag however thats prob due to crappy coding

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Well I don’t wanna compare to New World as I haven’t played it enough but I played some weeks and never had any issues with lag, but then again neither have I ever had any lag on the FFXIV servers either.

Bare metal servers are bare metal… they’re physical dedicated servers that you rent from another party. You don’t know who I am or what I do or did during my lifetime so back off with the accusations.

But cloud server is a cost. You buyed EW, you payed for subscription (Maybe 6 months, because is cheaper per month). They have your money, why they should buy new servers?

Look, you seem new here, so we'll let it slide, but you gotta learn quick: this game is a spaghetti-coded mess. Attempting something like this could very well leave the game shattered into several pieces spread across time and space.

I work for a company that supports retail chains and their Point of Sale equipment. One of these retailers made the decision to go to Cloud based server back bone. Most part its reliable but a majority of these Point of Sales run seriously behind compared to non cloud based servers. With that being said, it's hit or miss and it leaves most customers and the associates with a bad taste in their mouth.

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Originally Posted by LittleImp

People that think this is a realistic solution have virtually zero understanding of cloud computing, or what it means to maintain a service on the scale of this game.

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Im a Cloud Architect, so i guess i'd have no clue...

Still i dont want to say an ad hominem phalasy.

BUT....

They could have rented servers and then do a migration.

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Originally Posted by Akiudo

and they came to the conclusion that it was not feasible, to quote:

In the past, we partnered with a major company to experiment with switching to cloud servers. However, from a server cost and reliability perspective, we concluded that it was unlikely.

and before the next guy comes up and says "see ? they mentioned costs, i knew it they are just cheapskates" sorry to tell you but this is still a business at the end of the day, unless you want either sub prices to rise or money to be cut elsewhere (which will mean game development) than yea, of course the extra costs coming with things like this have to be taken into account. furthermore even if costs where a non issue they also mentioned reliability problems, which isn't unrealistic when talking about a game of this scale

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I would agree as a long term solution it may not be worthwhile, but they could still do it as a momentary measure.

Netflix compute power is not the same a Monday, to lets say Friday evening.