Imagine: Midlander stubble

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Originally Posted by Skivvy

I do feel ya on the gear. I mean, I like my frills now and then, but poor healers are almost always stuck in some sort of a dress/robe/long skirt combo. More reason to unlock the glams (as requested in another thread floating around)! Maybe one day.

Going back to the masculine appearances in this game. Final fantasy games as a whole tend to design males with a more androgynous or even effeminate style. With XIV being an MMO, I do feel like they branched out a bit, but you can still see that as an underlying style factor for a lot of the choices we have. I'm personally not drawn to this in general, but it kinda comes with playing a FF title.

Now...that's not to say we shouldn't be able to ask or hope for more options, something that suits our fancy, but it also does no good to wish for a massive overhaul to the general aesthetic. Gotta temper those expectations.

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You can do androgynous but even then not QUITE.

In terms of vibe you can get young Noctis but not Kuja, for example.

I would love to get the vibe of King Noctis and Gladio.

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/ca/a2...566e201e54.pnghttps://i.pinimg.com/474x/a8/0b/e7/a...56a397dd4a.jpg

...Some stubble/facial hair options on the Hyur would be a start here.

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Originally Posted by Skivvy

I do feel ya on the gear. I mean, I like my frills now and then, but poor healers are almost always stuck in some sort of a dress/robe/long skirt combo. More reason to unlock the glams (as requested in another thread floating around)! Maybe one day.

Going back to the masculine appearances in this game. Final fantasy games as a whole tend to design males with a more androgynous or even effeminate style. With XIV being an MMO, I do feel like they branched out a bit, but you can still see that as an underlying style factor for a lot of the choices we have. I'm personally not drawn to this in general, but it kinda comes with playing a FF title.

Now...that's not to say we shouldn't be able to ask or hope for more options, something that suits our fancy, but it also does no good to wish for a massive overhaul to the general aesthetic. Gotta temper those expectations.

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Final fantasy has always had masculine characters though. Jecht,Gladio,Snow to name a few. Honestly it seems like a problem with the community. A lot of the more vocal portions like i said in an earlier post, seem to be into the whole feminine males thing or trying to push the strong female angle and the lesser male thing. Thus we get more feminine styled gear and hairstyles and even races.

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Originally Posted by Ayuhra

You can do androgynous but even then not QUITE.

In terms of vibe you can get young Noctis but not Kuja, for example.

I would love to get the vibe of King Noctis and Gladio.

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/ca/a2...566e201e54.pnghttps://i.pinimg.com/474x/a8/0b/e7/a...56a397dd4a.jpg

...Some stubble/facial hair options on the Hyur would be a start here.

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One of the highlander faces gets a somewhat similar style to the 2nd picture, but I think that's about it. :(

Just curious, but are people wanting stubble brought to all the races or just looking to expand for the hyur? I hadn't really thought about that myself (lol), but now that I am...I'm having a hard time picturing say, a stubbly Elezen. Elezen seem like they'd be far too snooty to dare show their faces so unkempt. :P

Some of the races definitely have better facial hair options than the others (WTF Viera), but I feel that most do a fairly OK job of fitting the feel of the race itself. Maybe expand em a bit, and I would LOVE nothing more than to stop locking the different facial options to specific faces.

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Originally Posted by Skivvy

One of the highlander faces gets a somewhat similar style to the 2nd picture, but I think that's about it. :(

Just curious, but are people wanting stubble brought to all the races or just looking to expand for the hyur? I hadn't really thought about that myself (lol), but now that I am...I'm having a hard time picturing say, a stubbly Elezen. Elezen seem like they'd be far too snooty to dare show their faces so unkempt. :P

Some of the races definitely have better facial hair options than the others (WTF Viera), but I feel that most do a fairly OK job of fitting the feel of the race itself. Maybe expand em a bit, and I would LOVE nothing more than to stop locking the different facial options to specific faces.

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Hyur and Miqo'te would benefit from stubble the most. But it's not just facial hair, it's also facial shape, available hairstyles, etc. Expansion to character customization would...probably resolve most people's grievances about the male characters tbh. I think literally everyone wants a better character creator and inventory system for glamours.

But until then some glamours and hairstyles that flatter the male form would be nice. They can be available to female characters too, I'm not pro-genderlocking, we just need some stuff that was designed on the men first.

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Originally Posted by KizuyaKatogami

Final fantasy has always had masculine characters though. Jecht,Gladio,Snow to name a few. Honestly it seems like a problem with the community. A lot of the more vocal portions like i said in an earlier post, seem to be into the whole feminine males thing or trying to push the strong female angle and the lesser male thing. Thus we get more feminine styled gear and hairstyles and even races.

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I think this is a fairly unpopular opinion around these parts, but I would looooove for them to stop designing one-size-fits-all hairstyles and outfits. :X The hairstyles as of late, IMO, seem to be either some choppy short-style that all look fairly similar, or we get something slightly more fancy....but it leans towards the feminine side.

For both hair & clothing, it seems like they design the items for one particular race/gender in mind, then it's stretched poorly to fit on everyone else. It would be amazing if they could take some extra time and really tailor each style to the different races and genders. It can be a bit hard to not judge when you've seen it done well in other games and then you come back here and it is how it is.

But yeah, talk about tempering expectations...lol. I am not expecting any of the above to change, for better or worse. But it's a nice dream. X:

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Originally Posted by Skivvy

I think this is a fairly unpopular opinion around these parts, but I would looooove for them to stop designing one-size-fits-all hairstyles and outfits. :X The hairstyles as of late, IMO, seem to be either some choppy short-style that all look fairly similar, or we get something slightly more fancy....but it leans towards the feminine side.

For both hair & clothing, it seems like they design the items for one particular race/gender in mind, then it's stretched poorly to fit on everyone else. It would be amazing if they could take some extra time and really tailor each style to the different races and genders. It can be a bit hard to not judge when you've seen it done well in other games and then you come back here and it is how it is.

But yeah, talk about tempering expectations...lol. I am not expecting any of the above to change, for better or worse. But it's a nice dream. X:

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Oh i agree 1000%. Unfortunately it’s a problem with the latest push of people wanting less genderlocked things. Again, look at the recent hairstyles. They’re all so heavily androgynous but just look outright bad on males and females alike. It’s why i’m pro genderlocked. It at least gives us specific glams for each gender(usually) but for some reason this expansion theyve just been heavily pampering one side. Probably won’t change though. SE doesn’t seem to care at all and again, they have the dev bias of most of them playing female characters :/

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Originally Posted by Skivvy

It would be amazing if they could take some extra time and really tailor each style to the different races and genders. It can be a bit hard to not judge when you've seen it done well in other games and then you come back here and it is how it is.

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I am SO glad someone else thinks just like me. The whole point of playing a different race is to be different from one another but because we all have the same clothes and most hairstyles it doesn't feel as unique. I'm for the idea of Viera having digitigrade feet and requiring different heels just like how they were in FFXII... Whereas there's loads of people on the forum who would complain at my idea and insist all races should be entitled to the same clothing. (People like that you can tell FFXIV is their first game of the franchise)

Have to agree with the above - not a fan of homogeneisation.

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Originally Posted by SherlottaEryut

I am SO glad someone else thinks just like me. The whole point of playing a different race is to be different from one another but because we all have the same clothes and most hairstyles it doesn't feel as unique.

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At risk of detracting this thread, I agree.
It's a bit of a shame that one of the only differences between the races is how they move and emote.
Adding an extra idle pose for each race was neat, but I still wish there was a bit more defining each race beyond lore.

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Originally Posted by ItMe

At risk of detracting this thread, I agree.
It's a bit of a shame that one of the only differences between the races is how they move and emote.
Adding an extra idle pose for each race was neat, but I still wish there was a bit more defining each race beyond lore.

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I would love to see, as part of expanded customization, race-specific jewelry. Like tassels on Viera/Miqo'te ears, rings and jewels for Au Ra horns, tail decorations, and body tattoos for all.