5.57 patch notes! They did it!

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Originally Posted by Cidel

In any case, I'll be sure to add this to the list of contradictions when someone else inevitably starts hyperbolically declaring that they never listen to QoL requests here on the forums.

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You're assuming they did the change because of complaints.
While yes, it does go with what asked, they might have just been planning to do so from the start. They always make older steps easier a few patches later, they did with all previous steps too, so probably it was always in the cards.

I'm quite pleased with the nerf. I can definitely do 5 runs of DR at a time and not have to worry about my sanity finishing the rest of the relics. (Sorry Stormblood, you're still the only expansion I may not get all of them for).
On the drops in CLL, someone on reddit said it was 4-6 fragments per cheat and 600k mettle for beating CLL. Not bad. Maybe people will use things in there and DR now? Please?
I also find it funny that the notes for Dynbuu were never on those two skirmishes in the first place. I had a feeling when I was working towards the bike that those two didn't have it, because I never could get anyone to actually prove it (same with Elezen fire dude on the other two he is listed under). I have the bike but I hope this helps others get it.

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Originally Posted by Infindox

Maybe people will use things in there and DR now? Please?

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Weirdly enough, I see people use essences and actions (as well as go in with levelled honors) in CLL and Dalriada all the time. But in DR instead, people usually go with honors not even unlocked, and only like half use essences. I don't know why.
A friend theorized that it's cause those people for DR do the PF speedruns, while for the other two you can't do that. I honestly just want DR to be an halfway between "speedrun, x runs in a row, gotta use pure essences and all actions" and "nobody is using anything at all, some people are afk, some others die all the time, people dont'even know their class 1h runs". I don't wanna farm clusters for essences, but I put effort in farming honors since those are forever, and I don't wanna have to either farm clusters/spend money (and maybe be paired with people who don't even have honors) or be in 0 effort land. I kinda just wanna queue when I feel like it and still don't feel like I'm wasting my time in a forever instance.
Rant over sorry, anyway glad about the changes.

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Originally Posted by Tlamila

You're assuming they did the change because of complaints.
While yes, it does go with what asked, they might have just been planning to do so from the start. They always make older steps easier a few patches later, they did with all previous steps too, so probably it was always in the cards.

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I think it's a planned nerf personally to put it more in line with the drop rate for loathsome and raw emotions. They've done that with other relic chases before. We might get another with 5.58 as well.

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Originally Posted by Tlamila

It's better now, but if people keep being crap the run themselves will always be tedious.

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Yes, but at least now you only suffer 5 times instead of 15.

I mean, I have 44 leftover raw emotions and only 12 artifacts, and that's because I got fed up with having the quest completed for my AST with all the Dal farming for notes, so most of those emotions are not from DR runs, anyway. DR will be better for overall farming, sure, but certainly won't kill Dal what with the Field Notes behind it and the mount.

That was certainly a needed change, though. It seems to be generally agreed that the timeworn step is (or was?) the worst.

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Originally Posted by Rein_eon_Osborne

Alright, now ya'all have no reason to complain about how tedious DRn is for Timeworn Artifacts :cool: Congratulations!

(Nah I lied. Some will bound to out-idiot it and complain someday)

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DR is tedious period.

The Timeworn Artifact drop rate was a different issue.

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Originally Posted by lezard21

DR is tedious period.

The Timeworn Artifact drop rate was a different issue.

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This… so… much…

The fix helps ease the pain but the pain is still there.

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Originally Posted by LogicMouse

Correct "The number of timeworn artifacts received upon completing Delubrum Reginae has been increased from one to three.

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Beautiful. I was on the fence on going for a third/fourth weapon but this makes things so much simpler. Plus I need to restock on essences after grinding for that two seater.

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Originally Posted by LaylaTsarra

You don't get the mettle reward nor the chance at the notes which many need and with that terrible drop rate spamming Dal will continue to be a thing. I need the artifacts too but getting the emotions was never the problem it was the artifacts.

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DR gives an absolute truck load of mettle. It has done for a while now.

And it's much faster to with people having honours