BLU's circular requirements are yet another example of poor job design

B-b-but... it's too hard...! Dumb it down please!

hint: *sigh* How about a 'no'? :confused:

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Originally Posted by Callinon

Honestly I still recommend this approach for Glass Dance in particular. Shiva EX is a bitch and a half sync'd if everyone doesn't know how to handle it. I did it with split parties back then and it took a while, but we all got it with minimal fuss.

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I did that bag of awesome with a Full Party of BLUs. That was fun.
No joke, we wiped alot, but it was fun to re-learn and help others learn. And once we got it, everybody got the spell.
Gave me a warm feeling of community <3

Just don't die lol.

With the introduction of the new overworld monsters and Basic Instinct, BLU can acquire 102/104 spells solo. The only two you need help with are from the same encounter, Alphascape 3.0 normal.

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Originally Posted by Deceptus

Re: BLU Raise

Personally I think it should lose the cooldown if you're healer aspected.

Because a CD on a healer Rez is bad design.

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It usually would be but for blue it’s not such a big deal. You can’t do any of the content which requires mass res, eureka bozja etc. And you’re mostly running dungeons with other blues who also can have the raise etc.

I don’t think it would hurt, but at the same point I don’t think it’s required either.

Unrelated to OP's point but "just do the mechanics, just don't die" doesn't work for BLU because of the RNG nature of mechanics and crit auto-attacks (hello Bahamuth with that nasty TB+AA combo on a "tank" that's really just a DPS job with some damage reduction)

If there is any plan to do the synced no echo achievements, raise is a necessity.

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Originally Posted by Zanarkand-Ronso

Blue Mages having Raise is not a Required Spell.
Sure, they could future-proof things abit better for new people coming into it later, in the future but otherwise learning spells is not difficult. You dont even NEED party finder. You can do it with Friends or even solo Que. Also some spells can be learned from enemies out on the open world field.
The Masked Carnival was Created to be Challenging Single Player Content, the Raise spell being gated behind that is...unfortunate, but its a Milestone and achievement to show that you have beaten this challenging content.

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Raise is not required... as dps, but it's an important part of any healer's kit, basic I'd even say.

They should just put these cookie-cutter spells like Raise, Aetherial Mimicry, Pom Cure, Chelonian Gate (the tankbuster mitigator) on open world content, or gated behind totems with quest advancement. Those are essential for the roles, like the basic of the basics, they should be more readily available.

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Originally Posted by ZedxKayn

Unrelated to OP's point but "just do the mechanics, just don't die" doesn't work for BLU because of the RNG nature of mechanics and crit auto-attacks (hello Bahamuth with that nasty TB+AA combo on a "tank" that's really just a DPS job with some damage reduction)

If there is any plan to do the synced no echo achievements, raise is a necessity.

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Also adding that the tanking game for Blue Mages in Tanking Mimicry is really unnerving for all the wrong reasons:
- They don't benefit from melding Tenacity, which I know it's not really a desirable stat for normal tanks, but I'm sure it would help a ton with the innate squishyness and spikyness;
- ALL of the mitigator spells have a nearly 2s cast time, this makes extremely difficult to properly react to the tankbusters unless you can pinpont precisely when they'll be coming. At least you have Swiftcast, but still it's a 60s cooldown there;

Kudos to people that managed to tank for the Morbol mount, because if this design - as in making a Tank without proper tanking tools THE actual challenge - is intentional then, sadly, isn't for me.

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Originally Posted by ZedxKayn

Unrelated to OP's point but "just do the mechanics, just don't die" doesn't work for BLU because of the RNG nature of mechanics and crit auto-attacks (hello Bahamuth with that nasty TB+AA combo on a "tank" that's really just a DPS job with some damage reduction)

If there is any plan to do the synced no echo achievements, raise is a necessity.

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If this were savage/extreme, and some certain raid encounters then you'd have a perfectly valid point, but to be quite frank if you're doing the achievements then there is an expectancy that you'll have all spells in the first place otherwise you're just gimping the group.

So yes, just don't get swatted out by a hard-mode encounter with outright neglect to do mechanics. Across all 4 characters I've done BLU on, I've not once met someone dying to the hard mode encounter, except when their brain decides to malfunction and they think doing final sting is a good idea! If people struggle on anything- then sure, Ravana may catch some people out with Surpanakha and with general Tanking on the fight but everything else you near enough outgear by like 40-50iLv

I don't think I've ever seen anyone die in a BLU only trial for spells tbh. If anything I vote a rep from SE should personally come over and take spells away from you if that happens.