Early to Rise hairstyle drop rate

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Originally Posted by Luluna

I got the mount at around 42 drops and I then got the hair at about 55th run.

Its a good job I like it as I do feel you should be able to try hairstyles before you buy or farm.

I like the raid so I don't mind putting in the effort though I am from FFXI so this is probably nothing lol.

It is a bit low though as If you get a bad group it can take a lot longer and people should use essence and actions more to make it go a bit faster.

The drop rate is very low as I have done about 5 more since I got the drop a few nights back.

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I wish I had more essences I just hate they are a one time use per run. Should of made them infinite like certain actions

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Originally Posted by Starflake

Ok boomer, back in your day

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Hahaha ‘starflake’ :)

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Originally Posted by Fawkes

Cassie Earring is still pretty expensive. The Wind-Up Elvaan minion is obscenely rare as well, I don't think I've ever seen one up for sale on the market board.

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The copycat minion still sells for millions too despite it being very easy to get.

Slightly different scenario though. Eureka stuff is expensive but isn’t run too much. I should imagine DR will have a longer lifespan due to the relic and it just being a lot easier to unlock than the later stages of eureka.

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Originally Posted by Vickii

The copycat minion still sells for millions too despite it being very easy to get.

Slightly different scenario though. Eureka stuff is expensive but isn’t run too much. I should imagine DR will have a longer lifespan due to the relic and it just being a lot easier to unlock than the later stages of eureka.

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idk, Eureka can be largely soloed or low-manned especially by people who already have elemental gear and all the wheel upgrades, but DR needs 24 people and might not be undersizable. And Castrum will become a roadblock again for sure once the current fever dies down.

Can't complain about the drop rates if you can't even use the hair! Hahaha...ha...ha.....
Please Yoshi P, I just want all my hairstyles I spent hours, gil and MGP on, on my Viera T^T

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Originally Posted by Fawkes

idk, Eureka can be largely soloed or low-manned especially by people who already have elemental gear and all the wheel upgrades, but DR needs 24 people and might not be undersizable. And Castrum will become a roadblock again for sure once the current fever dies down.

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As far as I can tell, there aren't any enrage timers in DR normal outside of the shield phase at the Queen's Guard and the bosses melt in a premade 24 man that's actually using essences and DPS-boosting lost actions, so it should be reasonably undersizable.

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Originally Posted by KageTokage

As far as I can tell, there aren't any enrage timers in DR normal outside of the shield phase at the Queen's Guard and the bosses melt in a premade 24 man that's actually using essences and DPS-boosting lost actions, so it should be reasonably undersizable.

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You can't undersize it if you can't queue for it with undersized settings though. It's like PotD's queuing system which doesn't let you do that.

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Originally Posted by Vickii

Honestly, it’s an MMO and it’s a cosmetic item. It’s fine if you personally never ever see it drop as long as someone does and it makes its way to the MB.

There’s such a sense of entitlement in the FF community. Early MMO’s had 0.001 percent drop rates on mounts and things, and getting it was special. 14 players want to run a raid no more than 3 times then make an angry thread if it doesn’t drop.

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Which was always an incredibly stupid design philosophy. There's a reason it has nearly died out completely. Low drop rates are fine, but they lose their effectiveness the more absurd they get. It also encourages people not to use Lost Actions/Essence because by their 30th run, they just don't give a damn any more.

A far better alternative is making it also available with silver coins. That way players know "okay, if I get x amount, I'll be able to buy it." Which is what they did with EX mounts.

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Originally Posted by KageTokage

I've done 20 runs without the mount or hair to show for it at this point, so I'm wondering if they deliberately made the drop rates even worse then that of mounts from trials simply to compensate for the loot being personal drops as opposed to having to compete with others.

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I suspect it's because DR is literally the last major piece of content Shadowbringers has. And with 6-7 months before Endwalker. They need something to keep actively farming it.

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Originally Posted by Fawkes

idk, Eureka can be largely soloed or low-manned especially by people who already have elemental gear and all the wheel upgrades, but DR needs 24 people and might not be undersizable. And Castrum will become a roadblock again for sure once the current fever dies down.

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It can but it’s not. And most people who do, do it for themselves. I started doing it recently with a small group and 4/5 of us got the copycat minion in a week of Pyros. Yet it’s selling on the market board for around 5 million. That elvaan minion is going for even more yet again doesn’t seem that rare, just not too many people go that far now.

As for DR, yes doesn’t look like it can be queued undersize, but I imagine with the weeklies, people levelling and discord groups, it’s going to be alive for some time.

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Originally Posted by ForteNightshade

Which was always an incredibly stupid design philosophy. There's a reason it has nearly died out completely. Low drop rates are fine, but they lose their effectiveness the more absurd they get. It also encourages people not to use Lost Actions/Essence because by their 30th run, they just don't give a damn any more.

A far better alternative is making it also available with silver coins. That way players know "okay, if I get x amount, I'll be able to buy it." Which is what they did with EX mounts.

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Not only have I not been seeing any drops. I have once again used just about EVERY SINGLE one of my DPS essences - including my BEST ones. The runs are taking LONGER(!) than when I was out of essences and using NONE on my RDM.. I just got out of one that was AN HOUR - and this is becoming normal for my runs! I was using a Pure essence too..

The low drop rates combined with the potential length of DR, just don't work.