$35, really SE?

It's a vanity shop item that's also account wide - the cost is reasonable and at least (some of) the purchase price goes to continued development of the game.

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Originally Posted by Gothicshark

Oh but it does, you'd be shocked to know how much the overhead on an MMORPG like this is. The box fee and subs cover the barest amount of the game. The store items, especially the fantasia cover all the extras.

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It wouldn't be so bad if they weren't also perfectly happy admitting they have designers and modelers working in their unpaid free time to do things like make glowing primal weapons, making sure Viera and Hrothgar had some working head/face items and didn't launch in a completely trash state, and who knows what else we haven't heard about.

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Originally Posted by Gothicshark

Oh but it does, you'd be shocked to know how much the overhead on an MMORPG like this is. The box fee and subs cover the barest amount of the game. The store items, especially the fantasia cover all the extras.

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If that is the case than I'm more than happy for other people to pay extra to help the small start-up company SE run the game.

Actually I have bought something from the shop - Am I part of the problem or the solution?

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It wouldn't be so bad if they weren't also perfectly happy admitting they have designers and modelers working in their unpaid free time to do things like make glowing primal weapons, making sure Viera and Hrothgar had some working head/face items and didn't launch in a completely trash state, and who knows what else we haven't heard about.

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Unlikely they did that *on their free time*, as this was likely a PR move of them to make the new races halfway acceptable.

Imagine two new races with zero head pieces to wear, and with one of them being unable to even change haircuts without the use of fantasia. This place would riot, and with good reason.

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Originally Posted by Arrius

Unlikely they did that *on their free time*, as this was likely a PR move of them to make the new races halfway acceptable.

Imagine two new races with zero head pieces to wear, and with one of them being unable to even change haircuts without the use of fantasia. This place would riot, and with good reason.

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Right, which is why saying so proudly they went behind Yoshi's back to do it in their free time is so bizarre to me. What am I supposed to take away from that? That Yoshida himself didn't care enough to make sure the new races had anything to wear on their heads? Or they're so strapped for cash the only possible way to make it work was through the devotion of the designers? I see people gobble it up and applaud it, but really looking at it that's anything but good PR to me.

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I see people gobble it up and applaud it, but really looking at it that's anything but good PR to me.

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Yes, it's really not a good look.

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Donating? Are we not paying for expansions and monthly subs?
I'm not anti cash shop but the hoops people will jump through to justify it are staggering.

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Well you're getting to play the expansion you paid for, and your monthly sub is the service you pay for playing each month.
Optional items on the store are likely developed on the side, with the development cost being covered by the price of the item.

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Right, which is why saying so proudly they went behind Yoshi's back to do it in their free time is so bizarre to me. What am I supposed to take away from that? That Yoshida himself didn't care enough to make sure the new races had anything to wear on their heads? Or they're so strapped for cash the only possible way to make it work was through the devotion of the designers? I see people gobble it up and applaud it, but really looking at it that's anything but good PR to me.

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They really feel like some Early Access release, and that gives a sour taste.
Figure SE would be better than that. Guess I was wrong.

I agree that price is pretty steep. I saw it and wanted it but then I saw the price. Can’t exactly pay that price for a digital item. On top of that I’m getting really disappointed they still have yet to add Lyse’s outfit from from the end of Stormblood. I’ve waited patiently for it but we’ve been getting all the other scions or other characters outfits yet that one still hasn’t appeared. Don’t know how to get SE to finally add it to Mogstation. Been holding money just waiting for that outfit to come out.

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Originally Posted by Siegrand

Well you're getting to play the expansion you paid for, and your monthly sub is the service you pay for playing each month.
Optional items on the store are likely developed on the side, with the development cost being covered by the price of the item.

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People who work in videogames are already paid for doing what they are doing, Square should give the money for the achievements of FFXIV and not the users.
But reading it seems that we have to buy in the store so that the complaints about content can be solved.