Just finished Orbonne Monastery (old content spoilers)...

I found the duties for Invalice to be pretty good. I'll admit the writing/story was extremely long but over all I didn't find it to be a problem. I enjoyed the story especially when Fran entered the scene.

It's an alliance raid side-story that was meant from the very beginning to be fan service for people who played Final Fantasy Tactics and Final Fantasy XII. If you were expecting any more, then you were setting yourself up for disappointment and you're not going to find many here in the forums who sympathize with you.

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Originally Posted by TeraRamis

I love it when people on this forum break out the thesaurus to try to sound extra smart. It seems to be a very common occurrence with this playerbase, and it never fails to leave me shaking my head.

I knew who it was written by - it's still crap. Maybe he'll read this thread and hang his head in shame.

By the way, while we're "hey, you haven't acknowledged XYZing" each other, nice work just glossing over the points made in the OP, not a one of which has an actual counter argument. Or are you prepared to nuzzle on up to the "Alma's long-lost descendants look identical to, are dressed like, and named after their famous predecessors" nonsense on which the entire arc is predicated?

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I didn't gloss over them. I said that I found it about equally as good as FFT, they're both extremely boring and unexciting.

What a crap topic.

The point in the raid plot isn't to be a serious clone of the original Tactics games, rather just paying tribute to those concepts. Much like other plots in XIV do. Your taking this waaaaaay too serious bruh.

They found a way to make Tactics work for this game... which it needed to do because at the end of the day this isn't Tactics, this is a different world (that just happened to have a version of that game).

Most FF games are not related or connected and this one is no different. It did a crossover event and changed the original story to not connect the games but to make a history of the elements of one game exist in this one, which doesn't change the original story (because in it's own way that's still stand alone canon for Tactics)

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Originally Posted by MikkoAkure

It's an alliance raid side-story that was meant from the very beginning to be fan service for people who played Final Fantasy Tactics and Final Fantasy XII. If you were expecting any more, then you were setting yourself up for disappointment and you're not going to find many here in the forums who sympathize with you.

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I feel like this is something people need to keep in mind with the Nier alliance raids too.

I've never played FFT. Been told it was good by multiple people. Never made the time to sit down with it, so I'll just believe them. My only experience with the world of FFT is through crossovers/cameos/references. And from what I've noticed there...Ivalice seems utterly incapable of introducing a character, or a macguffin or whatever. It always, always needs to bulldoze an entire continent with innumerable characters into its host game and integrate itself into that game's history/lore. That's...a way to do it I suppose. But again as someone who's never played FFT, *I*'m getting bored of Ivalice's "HI, DID YOU MISS ME?" shtick, and I've only ever been there through its initial full-bore world setting bulldoze into FF12.

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(I don't even recall her being a paladin. She just had some sword attacks

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Yeah, how could you ever mistake the girl who grew up in the church, served in a knightly order acting as the primary bodyguard for the royal family, using a school of swordplay known as the holy sword style, whose practitioners are called holy knights, and whose masters earn the title "sword saint", and has the driving character traits of loyalty, honor, and devotion, for a paladin.

CRAZY LEAPS OF LOGIC THERE

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Originally Posted by Semirhage

I've never played FFT. Been told it was good by multiple people. Never made the time to sit down with it, so I'll just believe them. My only experience with the world of FFT is through crossovers/cameos/references. And from what I've noticed there...Ivalice seems utterly incapable of introducing a character, or a macguffin or whatever. It always, always needs to bulldoze an entire continent with innumerable characters into its host game and integrate itself into that game's history/lore. That's...a way to do it I suppose. But again as someone who's never played FFT, *I*'m getting bored of Ivalice's "HI, DID YOU MISS ME?" shtick, and I've only ever been there through its initial full-bore world setting bulldoze into FF12.

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Tactics is a good game, but not for everyone. The combat can take some getting used to and the story just kind of drags along in some places. Often times I found myself asking "who is this guy and why should I care?" about a majority of characters, but as a whole it's a solid game and story. I'd recommend the War of the Lions version that was released on the PSP because you get nice introductory cutscenes for some characters.

Tactics is probably my favorite video game, and the one I've put the most time into, but it's quirky and weird.

War of the Lions is better gameplay wise (though Balthier is yet another character in the "base class is overpowered" pile and Luso is... a thing that exists), but the original version has a lot more character.

Also, wotl goes WAAAAAAAY overboard with its ye olde englishe theethou nonsense.