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I wish they'd add more things to do at the beach. I've already built a sandcastle and gone swimming, so now I have no reason to ever go back. I don't understand why other people like beaches. I mean, I can just sit and read at home.


True story. Maybe you need to invent your own reason. Having some insane grind just to keep you in a zone just makes people upset, see atmas, eureka, diadem, etc...

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Originally Posted by Valkyrie_Lenneth

I wish they'd add more things to do at the beach. I've already built a sandcastle and gone swimming, so now I have no reason to ever go back. I don't understand why other people like beaches. I mean, I can just sit and read at home.


True story. Maybe you need to invent your own reason. Having some insane grind just to keep you in a zone just makes people upset, see atmas.

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Sure. I'll just invent my own reason rather than wishing they would do something about increasing the longevity of the zones.

Silly me for wanting them to take some of the beautifully created assets in their game and utilize them more.

But hey, at least I can go to the empty zones and twiddle my thumbs meaningfully and get a sense of satisfaction from my time spent there.

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Originally Posted by Malmstrom

Sure. I'll just invent my own reason rather than wishing they would do something about increasing the longevity of the zones.

Silly me for wanting them to take some of the beautifully created assets in their game and utilize them more.

But hey, at least I can go to the empty zones and twiddle my thumbs meaningfully and get a sense of satisfaction from my time spent there.

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People do that at beaches all the time, I'm not understanding the difference.

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Originally Posted by Valkyrie_Lenneth

People do that at beaches all the time, I'm not understanding the difference.

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The difference is that you're being willfully obtuse when you know exactly what I mean.

Perhaps you should head to that beach you're talking about and take a long walk off a short pier.

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Originally Posted by Malmstrom

The difference is that you're being willfully obtuse when you know exactly what I mean.

Perhaps you should head to that beach you're talking about and take a long walk off a short pier.

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Nah, that wouldn't be fun. Maybe find some friends who like to do overworld stuff.

Anything meaningful will be zerged, see hunts. Everything else has an end objective, or you "only spend a few minutes there so what's the point"


Maybe look less at how much time you spend there and more at enjoying the time while you are there?

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Sure. I'll just invent my own reason rather than wishing they would do something about increasing the longevity of the zones.

Silly me for wanting them to take some of the beautifully created assets in their game and utilize them more.

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Increase the longevity by how much? Utilize them more in what way?

In my experience, whenever people want more longevity, it just turns into meaningless grinds. I think FFXIV has a good enough length for a grind as it is. Future MSQ may visit the zones again, and there are always hunts and gathering nodes.

You can make your own content, do some role play or have an event with your friends in the zone of your choosing.

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I'm assuming that's some sort of stupid meme. Makes me glad I don't use the internet like that, because then I would risk sounding just as stupid.



Right up until you don't have reasons to go back. Then you're in the same inevitably sad boat.



Nothing that is going to keep you there for any length of time. All of those things puts you in that zone for a few minutes at most individually. Also, the argument for tomestones is silly if you're max everything. Tank / healer queues will max you out within a day, maybe two if you decide to slow roll it.



There doesn't need to be an infinitely long checklist, just something that makes being in the zone for more than five minutes worth it. I want to go back to every zone all the time and do things all day in them. There just isn't anything to do in them.

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Just because YOU can't see a reason to go back, doesn't mean there is not a reason for others to go back and for them to continue to go back.

I'm sure I'll be back in 6.0 when we have new jobs to level and I'm looking for the easy boost to 80. Especially if they don't add another deep dungeon.

Actually, it just occurred to me that we've had no word of any optional trials like the Warring Triad or the Four Lords for ShB. Huh.

FFXIV offers a certain deal to players. Part of that deal is: You dont have to revisit zones after you are done with your MSQ, except for stuff you dont really need. You can play the game as a multiplayer lobby game 98% of your gametime, not leaving whatever hub you decide to be at, ideally your FC house.

The core gameplay, which is relatively small, short and easy compared to more mature or serious MMORPGs, is a lobby game grinder. The side activities are what makes FFXIV be more than a lackluster gear treadmill, and they need you to go places.

You seem to expect FFXIV to change its nature to an actual MMORPG. Its not, and the supercasual playerbase wouldnt want it to be. Actual MMORPGs died out a while ago, being replaced by faux open worlds with lobby gameplay.

As someone who hates doing the same thing over and over for any length of time, I like FFXIV.

I enjoy all the side content, and sometimes I just like to ride around in zones looking for nice screenshots. If I wanna chill, I can chill. If I want to challenge myself, I can do that too.

Atm I have just been leveling my crafters, while breaking it up with an occasional hades, maybe spend some time in the gold saucer, do a little bit of front lines, work on my glamours, and I'm happy with it.

I quite like the new beast quests, and I think the little zone is pretty cool, so I'll probably pop by from time to time