Old topic of male Viera.

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Originally Posted by zeylos

By lore, not only should the viera race onyl equate to about 2-1% of the player population, but female roegadyns shouldtn exist, same for male miqote, and au ra shouldnt be able to enter ishgard, only 1 WHM per server, only 0.5% of the players (if not less) can be summonerss, only about 5% can be female miqote, no crossover events, no scions outfits, etc etc etc etc etc

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Someone did the math... Geez.

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Originally Posted by zeylos

By lore, not only should the viera race onyl equate to about 2-1% of the player population, but female roegadyns shouldtn exist, same for male miqote, and au ra shouldnt be able to enter ishgard, only 1 WHM per server, only 0.5% of the players (if not less) can be summonerss, only about 5% can be female miqote, no crossover events, no scions outfits, etc etc etc etc etc

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Where are you getting all this from? Where does it ever say female roegadyns shouldn’t exist? Though his family was killed by them, there still is an actual au ra NPC in Ishgard and no one is kicking him out (DRK quest stuff excluded). There is a whole corps in the Ul’dah military who are summoners. According to the lorebook, 20% of the population of Limsa Lominsa are miqo’te, along with 10% of Gridania, though not enough to show up as a whole percent in Ul’dah (people think that for some reason miqo’te only come from the teeny tiny population who still live in tribes?).

I’m not sure if you actually believe all that or if you’re trying to say “lore doesn’t matter” with hyperbolic or straight up wrong examples to support why we should have male viera. Most people baring a few are OK with them being added. The discussion is mostly about showing in the lore why they’re not here right now.

An exception can always be made for adventurers. We’re a group of random mercenaries from anywhere. That’s why I feel like male moon keeper miqos don’t break any lore running around since A. Roaming around is kind of their hat. And B. All adventurers are native to Eorzea (barring the new races) and parts of the land we adventure on and are from happens to be the moon keeper homeland too.

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Originally Posted by Rakshazi

Oh, I will, thanks. But the main idea of this tread is how lore could explain the lack of male/female representatives in the First, where's no place to hide them.

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Ultimately that's the wrong direction to be looking at it, because it's not originating as a lore decision. It's a game design decision that the lore writers have no control over, and just have to do their best to pick up the pieces and come up with yet another plausible reason why one gender of a race is so much more visible than the other - in two separate societies in two different realities.

For Viera/Viis, the answer seems to have been not coming up with two separate cultures...

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Originally Posted by MikkoAkure

There is a whole corps in the Ul’dah military who are summoners.

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I'm pretty sure that "whole corps" is the three summoners we met in the Lv60-70 quests.

I agree with the rest of what you wrote though - I'm not sure where Zeylos is pulling those stats from either, especially the "female Roegadyn and male Miqo'te shouldn't exist". Why and how? Their non-existence in 1.0 was the same programming-not-lore issue we have with Viera and Hrothgar now - apparently originating from the same logic for their counterpart races in FFXI, where (according to something I read a while ago) there was only space for four races, so Galka/Mithra were combined into "one race" for programming purposes.

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Originally Posted by Iscah

I'm pretty sure that "whole corps" is the three summoners we met in the Lv60-70 quests.

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Ah dang. I was under the impression that there were more of them for some reason. It's been a hot minute since I did those quests.