Novice Network

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Originally Posted by JackHatchet

People need a global chat channel to talk in. The easiest solution to this problem is for Square-Enix to just make a global chat channel like Novice Network, but for general chatter. And then everyone would chill in there over Novice Network.

It really doesn't help that there are toxic people on both sides and that makes it worse. If it was just the general chatter people being toxic--then the "NN is for newbies only!" people would have a leg to stand on, but they're guilty too. I can't tell you how many times I've had legitimately good conversations in Novice Network. There will be no one asking questions with a fun, creative atmosphere and some douchebag chirps in "hey NN is just for helping people!" Like no @@@@ Sherlock, but no one is asking questions. How dare you come in here and start making a scene and derailing from the pleasant conversation going. There's a lot of 'holier than thou' people out there who just want to see everyone else bend the knee to their way of thinking--even if it's negative for the community. So if we get a global chat channel then all the prudes can stay in Novice, and the cool kids can hang out in global.

Again, I can't state again how good it would be to get an official global chat channel. And to anyone who says "oh just form a linkshell."--bugger off. That's a bad suggestion and you don't understand how global chat works. The same for 'Join a FC" or "use shout chat."

The bottom line is. Novice Network can and WILL be the global chat channel until Square-Enix gives one. I think that's a valid cause everyone can get behind. Maybe y'all should petition for one or something. However that works.

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This ^ - Most games I've played in the past have always had a global chat. Just can't understand why SE cannot have the same. The NN is a good idea but I would prefer to see a global chat that doesn't require you to be a mentor or sprout to join.

what grinds my gears is that Mentors are just kicking whoever they feel. I report Mentors at least 2 times a day for kicking someone randomly because of <insert subjective reason>

The Novice Network on our server isn't toxic at all, but actually a nice little community. It just sucks that at some point you drop out of it - I feel like the Novice Network is proof that we NEED a general chat with a profanity filter and restrictions for new chars (You need to have finished the ARR Story to participate - Until then, you can use the Novice Chat) so that gilsellers can't spam it.

If you can't actually get in trouble for kicking people for an actual reason, maybe I should just start purging every last bot in NN.

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Originally Posted by BatLW

we NEED a general chat with a profanity filter

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There is a profanity filter that is default on and is opt out. If people are subverting the filter, report them - that's actually against the ToS. Otherwise, there is no other stricter filter needed.

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Originally Posted by Arazehl

This isn't the first thread about poor treatment in the NN. There are some very helpful people in this program, I'm sure, but there is also those that seep in that fail miserably at public relations. Is the program broken? Not entirely, but it needs to have stricter guidelines put in place to filter out those that are not in there for the reasons it was intended. It's not a social network, nor should it be allowed to turn into one.

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Unfortunately, it's run on honor. If you ask GM about the NN, you'll be told it's no different than any other linkshell, but with obligations to answer questions and invite new and returning players. Outside of that, conversation is pretty much up to the occupants. The only thing players can do about other players abusing the NN is report them for when they don't do the very few things required of them.

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Originally Posted by JackHatchet

PThe bottom line is. Novice Network can and WILL be the global chat channel until Square-Enix gives one. I think that's a valid cause everyone can get behind. Maybe y'all should petition for one or something. However that works.

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There's no guarantee that adding a global chat would remedy the extra chatter in NN, which isn't even a problem to begin with. If anything, adding a global chat, where 200+ other people can chime in whenever, might keep those same people speaking in NN because of exclusivity (only other mentors, newbies and returning) plus familiar names they already know. Seeing how global chat is in Black Desert Online, it tends to scroll by too quickly to actually have any meaningful conversations, especially if people want to troll with macros.

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Add to the fact it'd provide an avenue for RMT to advertise their practices, whereas a majority of them are blocked from anything beyond ARR areas due to needing the expansions. Unless, of course, they add stipulations like trial accounts cannot use global chat, but fully bought accounts still could add to that problem.