YoshiP seems to confuse difficulty with tediousness

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Originally Posted by Shyd

Yea the 2 LS members who completed the chain last night where blown away, and then giddy lil school girls with there new awesome looking armor.

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Everyone in our party with the quest flagged was screaming OMG in mumble. SE did a fantastic job with this quest. Don't skip the story for this one when you do do it. The final scenes absolutely steal the show, but understanding why they are happening makes is even sweeter. Someone on the design team has a very good understanding of Final Fantasy Dragoons.

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Originally Posted by Ryuko

Put it into perspective, people. If you had a group of 75's doing AF quests in XI, it would be seen as THIS EASY (too easy) too.

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I know one person just soloed my AF and limit break quests in FFXI, and then I soloed them for myself again while leveling my other jobs. People just don't know how to take a step back and think about what they're really saying and doing.

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Originally Posted by Wolfie

I know one person just soloed my AF and limit break quests in FFXI, and then I soloed them for myself again while leveling my other jobs. People just don't know how to take a step back and think about what they're really saying and doing.

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Yep, I completely agree. When I played FFXI (back when the cap was 75), I soloed most of my coffer keys, and many other things that could be soloed for my other jobs. Anything else, all I needed was one or two other people to help me. The reason people see it differently is because AF quests existed when we started playing XI. They didn't with XIV. I don't know when they were introduced in XI compared to the JP release (approximately one year before NA release), but that would be some food for thought, too.

Know what I did at 99 cap? I soloed all of the gods but Kirin. Was tedious work~

I soloed CoP from 1 - 8.4...so tedious.

I soloed all of my AF, Relic and Empyrean AF + 1~2. Tedious, Tedious!

I soloed all Limit breaks (but 10 and Maat stye fights) for new players, so, so tedious.

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Originally Posted by Ryuko

Yep, I completely agree. When I played FFXI (back when the cap was 75), I soloed most of my coffer keys, and many other things that could be soloed for my other jobs. Anything else, all I needed was one or two other people to help me. The reason people see it differently is because AF quests existed when we started playing XI. They didn't with XIV. I don't know when they were introduced in XI compared to the JP release (approximately one year before NA release), but that would be some food for thought, too.

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FFXI's AF and limit was released with RoZ as part of the leveling experience (cap before RoZ was 50, AF starts at 52 iirc).

As someone who just restarted and doesn't have any 50's, I'm getting a similar experience out of the job quests in FFXIV as I did from AF in FFXI.

Ok, lets add two months to our timeline, so May, making the jobs have been out for awhile. Lets say this is your first 45. Now try to do these quests for the gear and final job battle WITHOUT EVERYONE AND THEIR MOTHER trying to get them done at the same time. Unless you have a really caring LS, good lucky building a party to help with that Dragoon final battle. I was able to get my black mage quest line done due to that fact every step of the way, I had 40+ people doing the same quest.

This content was made for the new player to work up to and be a rite of passage.

last WAR fight is beyond brutal, all I'm gonna say.

I don't know about tediousness. I do things with other people and always have a blast.

Tl:dr? Blackmage don't give a damn.

Idk what people are complaining about. We have been 5 or 6 manning all of the jobs. 6/7 jobs, in 24 hours. O.o

I think these quests certainly add that motivation to level that most people complained about early on in this games life. That alone is worth it.