Bots clicking placards...

i absolutely blame SE for this. The whole "hidden timer" thing just gave rise to this problem. bots, autoclickers, macros, controller macros, wireless controllers. It's so easy to take advantage of this system of spam - and you can't figure out who is who.
That's why there should be a bidding or lottery system. At least you only need to click on the placard once and hope rng picks you. lottery system can be manipulated with multiple alts, but at least it's better than going against those bots.
Or I would just revert back to the insta-purchase plots. because at least that system was first come, first serve. it's way more sane than literally standing there and doing nothing.

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Originally Posted by outburstt

Or I would just revert back to the insta-purchase plots. because at least that system was first come, first serve. it's way more sane than literally standing there and doing nothing.

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100% this. The random timer was put in place to help with people selling house plots. People still sell house plots all over the place. The timer just made it harder for people to buy their first house. It didn't stop what it was meant to stop. Please call it the failed experiment that it is and go back to letting the first person to show up to the house be the person who is able to buy it.

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Originally Posted by outburstt

Or I would just revert back to the insta-purchase plots. because at least that system was first come, first serve. it's way more sane than literally standing there and doing nothing.

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Absolutely.

Logged in after sleep and the same half dozen bots are still at the same house. One of them got it sometime in the night but all their macros are still running so they're all still trying to buy it ><

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Originally Posted by MizArai

100% this. The random timer was put in place to help with people selling house plots. People still sell house plots all over the place. The timer just made it harder for people to buy their first house. It didn't stop what it was meant to stop.

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No but it definitely did reduce it. The pool of players who can engage in house flipping has been greatly reduced because you either need to buy a fc or be able to relocate to purchase a house from another player. That's a tiny amount of people compared to before.

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Originally Posted by MizArai

Please call it the failed experiment that it is and go back to letting the first person to show up to the house be the person who is able to buy it.

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If it reduced RMT that's a win in SE's eyes.

But like...SE could remove almost all housing-based RMT and housing-based player unhappiness by giving us instanced housing ><

/tears hair out because the answer has been obvious for far too many years

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Originally Posted by Mitsubashi

Absolutely.

Logged in after sleep and the same half dozen bots are still at the same house. One of them got it sometime in the night but all their macros are still running so they're all still trying to buy it ><

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I seen this as well. Yesterday i saw a character that seem to be a very obvious bot, they where clicking on the placard even after they got the house continuously.

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Originally Posted by Penthea

No but it definitely did reduce it. The pool of players who can engage in house flipping has been greatly reduced because you either need to buy a fc or be able to relocate to purchase a house from another player. That's a tiny amount of people compared to before.

If it reduced RMT that's a win in SE's eyes.

But like...SE could remove almost all housing-based RMT and housing-based player unhappiness by giving us instanced housing ><

/tears hair out because the answer has been obvious for far too many years

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But, the house flipping market is just as active if not more so than it was before. How was it reduced?

The people I've known who bought gil never bought a house with it. The people I know who spend ridiculous amounts of gil on housing have plenty of gil on their own and would never think of buying gil to get a house (because they normally don't even know what to do with all the gil they have). I really don't understand why people assume that just because you bought a house from a flipper that RMT was involved somehow.

I would love to have instanced housing so I could have something better than an apartment for my alts.

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Originally Posted by Yshtola

That's been going since 4.1, you're kinda late. I personally relocate to those plot and relocate back 5 minutes later just to reset the timer.

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Just to note, that's a reportable offense that action can be taken on. We as users are not permitted to take action against those we believe to be using 3rd party tools or cheating. Harassment of any kind to a player character is not permitted and even if it's to a completely obvious bot. The bot user can report you and the GMs can and likely will take action in such cases.

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Originally Posted by Dustytome

Just to note, that's a reportable offense that action can be taken on. We as users are not permitted to take action against those we believe to be using 3rd party tools or cheating. Harassment of any kind to a player character is not permitted and even if it's to a completely obvious bot. The bot user can report you and the GMs can and likely will take action in such cases.

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/doze.....

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Originally Posted by Yshtola

/doze.....

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Well aware you don't care. It's more to make sure anyone else reading doesn't get the idea that it's ok and compromises what may be their only account.