Baldesion Arsenal and new ToS Combo

Japanese people are polete and respectful to others, a strong cultire in game. I can't say the same about NA.

And, are you a Japanese? Do you play there to say these kind of things?

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Originally Posted by Leanna

Say that to Japanese players and see how they laugh at you.

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JP gets to laugh at all of NA reguardless, the skill gap between the two of us is huge.

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Originally Posted by LeoLupinos

Everybody literally had to agree to BA dificulty warning before unlocking it. There you could read that GROUPS would need organization, strenght and bla bla bla to clear the content. Thats a clearly "get a group and dont enter solo".

BA is no easy task, i think ppl didn't understood that the line between casual and hardcore content was CLEARLY stablished when they agreed to that BA term to unlock it.

If you didn't start a successful pre-made, you do NOT have place of speak to talk about letting randons join your pre-mate and take the place of someone else that were striving to join in the same instance to get to BA.

It's easy to claim the spot when youre not the one organizing huh? Don't you guys have empathy?

Don't come to me talking about reasons to not join discord. Most players go there only to LISTEN, and that's enough for someone who has access to a guide and videos. You play a english game in PRIMAL DC.

There's literally no reason to not accept this kind of organization method imo.

A single mechanic wrong and the whole 56 players lost their run. If you thinks this is fine, sstart one and accept everyone then, whats locking you?

If you join someone else BA you will be left to die. Or they will leave, so that you can, ghasp, do your run. What did you expect? Joining and being carried in the place of someone that worked hard to join but did not because of a random Joining? Naive.

Is optional content, don't feel entitled to join SOMEONE ELSE group to get anything. Not your group, not your rules. If you do not agree, create your own and search a instance like EVERYONE else. That simple.

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And with this kind of organization, NA was the first to clear and had helped many people clear and get the mount.

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Originally Posted by Alucard135

And with this kind of organization, NA was the first to clear and had helped many people clear and get the mount.

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Na admitted a lot of it was down to the info they gained off Japanese and EU runs.
EU would have likely been first to clear but our Duty finder was broken for several days and people struggled to even get into Eureka.

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Originally Posted by Celef

They are different reasons that can make someone not getting on discord, the obvious one beeing the langage.
for some of us, english is not a mother tongue and joining a discord can be very difficult considering it's easier to understand a sentence when it's written (we can re read it several times) than to get what others a saying (may be beaucse of accent, expressions taht are only used when spoke etc etc).

I'll take myself, a "baguette du fromage", as an exemple : I can read english, no problem (except with some shortcut) and I think my writing is not THAT bad, people usually understand me but I have real issues when i speak with Americans cause they speak very fast and tend to "eat" some words. On the other hand, I can easely understand someone from the UK because their prounonciation is more clear to my ear.

Does that mean I'll never have a chance to get into BA because of that ? caus if I join the discord :
1. If they ear speak, they'll just loose their focus with my accent ^^"
2. I'll need the RL to repeat very slowly what he says because I might not be abble to catch it the first time

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There is a french discord, as well as an Italian and a German one.

Its not breaking the ToS and neither side is right or wrong its first come first serve just like in ff11, maplestory and any other old world mmo.

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Originally Posted by thegreatonemal

Its not breaking the ToS and neither side is right or wrong its first come first serve just like in ff11, maplestory and any other old world mmo.

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Pray tell me when FFXI did implement an instance system that people would enter like this on an individual basis ?

Please also tell me why when no premades are in the area, nobody bother to enter the portals ?

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Originally Posted by LeoLupinos

If you thinks this is fine, sstart one and accept everyone then, whats locking you?

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Originally Posted by LeoLupinos

Is optional content, don't feel entitled to join SOMEONE ELSE group to get anything.

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No its the final to an HELLHOLE of content that took stuff from us (Dungeons?), locked the relic in an instance that forced us to do that and only that unlike before, so you basically have to abandon anyone not being able to join. AND spread the very little story so thin, you basically can watch ALL of it in like what? 5-10 min for 300 hours of grind? xD

It is puplic and as others said, there are 56 portals, no just 7 for the group leaders. To lock stuff behind that was... stupid. Even worse you gotta beat it do get the gear to... beat it faster? lol.

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Originally Posted by LeoLupinos

Japanese people are polete and respectful to others, a strong cultire in game. I can't say the same about NA.

And, are you a Japanese? Do you play there to say these kind of things?

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So because NA players are savages without education the only way to do it is gating people out, pfft, pathetic XD

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Originally Posted by Metalwrath

Na admitted a lot of it was down to the info they gained off Japanese and EU runs.
EU would have likely been first to clear but our Duty finder was broken for several days and people struggled to even get into Eureka.

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JP made the most progress while being open to everyone and NA just followed their steps while gating people out, but it's hard for people to admit I guess.

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Originally Posted by Soupa

JP gets to laugh at all of NA reguardless, the skill gap between the two of us is huge.

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I see how NA is better by copying someone's else work while being extremely elitist and selfish, meanwhile JP players do a collective effort to teach and give chances to everyone, clearing it.

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Originally Posted by Metalwrath

There is a reason there are 56 portals and not just 7 portals for 8 man teams.
BA was designed to be pugged.
If people want to go premade and they dont get the portals thats just tough luck.
First come first served.Thats the way BA was designed.There is nothing to stop all these people making teams once they are inside and setting up discord server once inside for the groups.
Simple matter is only reason premades are angry is because they cant get all their buddies in to get rewards.

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It is designed to be pugged, yes but not a casual content. Just like savage content is designed to be pugged. But would you jump into a savage clear party without knowing the fight just to end up wiping them all? They wouldn't know you're new, since their PF won't have [Duty Complete] on it and you have every right to join. They would know when you start making mistakes and waste their time.

And here's the thing, if it wasn't for a premade group in an instance, no one would bother touching BA, excpet a group or two. Now that a premade joined an instance, suddenly everyone wants and take a portal? What's the reason for that? Do they think they will be carried? The groups there have every right also to not invite you and leave you solo there and you'll risk deleveling. And if a tank spot was sniped and there are no 6 tanks, good luck progressing past rooms. So they basically destroyed the run.

Just as you have every right to join a PF that doesn't have [Duty complete] you have a right to take a portal. But if you know that you might destroy a run, should you do it?

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Originally Posted by Metalwrath

Na admitted a lot of it was down to the info they gained off Japanese and EU runs.
EU would have likely been first to clear but our Duty finder was broken for several days and people struggled to even get into Eureka.

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Why haven't they cleared first then? BA is easy once you know how the fights go. Yet, it was NA that cleared and not JP or EU. Why? Because NA was the most organized they easily farmed fragments and the items to gear up for the fights to pass AV and Ozma's enrage. If you look at the world first clear, you'll see a lot wearing the FFXI gear.